On Oct 22, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, > >> You also said things like >> >>> That's exactly the point of the defconst: you can still modify the >>> variable, but it sends a strong message to the user. Also, it's not >>> about deprecation: code base should still rely on these variables. >> >> so maybe I picked one interpretation over the other. > > I don't see any contradiction. You can modify a defconst, but the strong > message is "you are not supposed to do that". I didn't suggest modifying > these variables was expected. Anyway, I acknowledge I wasn't very clear. > >> Yes, sorry. By "nothing" I mean nothing we cannot achieve with >> documentation and a :set method. > > This will not fix the bug. Hi Nicolas, can you remind me what the bug was? The taskjuggler issue? > >> Since we will still rely on the variables, the advantage for >> maintenance is something I do not see. > > As a developer, you have to keep in mind that the string might be > changed. Sometimes, it's easy to forget you cannot hardcode it, e.g. > when writing a search regexp. I have done a similar mistake in > ox-taskjuggler.el, where I expect the effort property to be named > ":EFFORT:". More things to remember, more potential bugs, more > maintenance efforts. > >> Cache friendliness I see, but I would think that if someone changes >> these variables, they will not keep changing them. > > Of course. I shouldn't have talked about cache since it makes me sound > like a lazy person. I can work around the cache problem. > > Again my main concern was to move to a proper, Emacs-independent, > /minimal/ core syntax, i.e., to define the "Org format". For example, at > the moment, external tools cannot rely on "SCHEDULED:" string to write > even a basic Org file, because "SCHEDULED:" doesn't clearly belong to > the syntax and, therefore, might be incompatible with some > configurations. Yes, as I said, I do see all these problems, but I also feel the responsibility to break as few as possible existing configurations. If you want, I can take a shot at documenting this properly. - Carsten > > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Goaziou
