Hi Alan,

thanks for chiming in.  As Achim quoted, the GFLD says that the license should 
be in the document, but that makes the GFDL almost unfit for anything below a 
book.

I have asked RMS about this, and he says that the license should be present in 
printed versions of the document.  I find it very hard to believe that this 
must be the case.  It bothers me mostly for the guide, where I did spend a lot 
of time to make it compact, and now something like one fifth of it is license 
text.  We may actually consider to re-release the guide under a different 
license.

Will try to find a solution here.

- Carsten

On 10.3.2013, at 01:43, Alan L Tyree <alanty...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 10/03/13 02:11, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> 
>> On 9.3.2013, at 16:02, Achim Gratz <strom...@nexgo.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carsten Dominik writes:
>>>> I am wondering, are we required to include the full text of the GFDL
>>>> in the manual?  I find it a big waste of space and feed that a link
>>>> should do.  But I have not been able to find the rules that say what
>>>> needs to be included in a document distributed under GFDL?
>>> 
>>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-howto
>>> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3.html
>>> 
>>> "To use this License in a document you have written, include a copy of
>>> the License in the document and put the following copyright and license
>>> notices just after the title page:[…]"
>>> 
>>> I read this: If there's just one document, it must contain the license
>>> in full, if there are several that reference each other, it is enough to
>>> include it in the top-level document.
>> 
>> Yes it sounds like it.  Thank you for the link.
>> 
>> I still think it is crazy to add these 8 pages to each time someone prints 
>> it....
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> - Carsten
>> 
> I also think it is crazy, and I don't think it is necessary. Although the FSF 
> might prefer you to include the whole licence, in my opinion there is no need 
> to do so. The manual is released under the GFDL and so is subject to the 
> terms of the license.
> 
> In my view, this statement from Creative Commons is accurate:
> 
> "How can I license my work?
> 
> There is no registration to use the Creative Commons licenses.
> 
> Licensing a work is as simple as selecting which of the six licenses best 
> meets your goals, and then marking your work in some way so that others know 
> that you have chosen to release the work under the terms of that license."
> 
> The important part here is that "others know", that is, it must be very clear 
> that the manual is released subject to the GFDL. As a courtesy, a link to the 
> GFDL or including a copy as part of the package might be nice.
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
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