Bastien writes: > I don't like it for at least these reasons: > > - it introduces an advice in the code -- we should work toward > removing them, not adding them.
That's the mechanism Emacs provides for dealing with those situations. I could do it without an advice, but it would still do the same things, namely unload all features that have been shadowed by changing load-path so that they can be re-loaded from the correct place. It may have escaped your attention, but the advice is de-activated at the earliest possible moment and will not affect any later uses of require. > - it advices `require', which is a very core function in Emacs. Which has been discussed on Emacs devel and has been pronounced safe in this case. > This is completely hackish. Like a few hundred other places in Emacs and Org. Also, when some day Emacs will perhaps solve the problem, the solution will likely be something very similar: renaming the require primitive and creating a wrapper in Lisp that does what the advice is doing. > This is like telling Windows users to reboot their system so that it > can works correctly (remember the old days?). It feels wrong. And I > doubt we can educate the users -- there are many of them, and many > don't have the time to tell they have a problem. So why are you trying to educate users not to use ELPA when you think it's a waste of time? > I'm not sure what solution you suggest here. A problem produced by a certain piece of software should be fixed by that same software. For example, if starter-kit insists on loading Org before things are ready, it should also unload Org after it is finished using it and before the actual initialization commences. > In general, I think the benefit of having several ELPA distributions > of Org is not worth the trouble of dealing with installation issues. You're confusing me. Do you want to remove Org from ELPA or not? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds
