On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 3:41 AM Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
... > > The example you are highlighlighting here was why I was earlier > > suggesting for a rule that would allow something like this input: > > > > "A quotation ending with a period." [cite: @hoel-71-whole]. > > > > ... where the second would be dropped, hence getting the expected output. > > This is interesting, but we might get false positives, as in the > following (far-fetched) example > > … the so-called "foobar". [cite/text: See @hoel-71-whole p. 42]. > > which bites us because we need to process even non-note citations to > remove the spurious punctuation while ignoring the necessity of a given > punctuation character. Yeah, I wasn't sure of the details. > As another, imperfect, workaround, I submit the following idea for > consideration: > > "A quotation ending without punctuation" [cite: @hoel-71-whole]. > "A quotation ending with a period"[cite: @hoel-71-whole]. > > IOW, the presence or absence of a space before the citation determines, > according to a note rule, if the punctuation should go inside or outside > the quotation. When processing non-note citations, we just need to > ensure there is at least a space after the previous element, which is > less "dangerous" than removing punctuation. > > I find it a bit too subtle, and so error-prone, but so is punctuation > anyway. > > WDYT? Just to confirm, Nicolas, your proposal would basically say the second example would override the default punctuation-moving behavior for the locale? And for an in-text/author-date style, what would the output be with that example? I, someone who may have an "en-US" bias you could say, would expect: "A quotation ending with a period" (Hoel, 1971). As in, the in-quote period would be dropped regardless, and therefore a space would also need to be added. Is that right Denis? It wouldn't make sense to do any of these; right? "A quotation ending with a period." (Hoel, 1971). "A quotation ending with a period." (Hoel, 1971) "A quotation ending with a period"(Hoel, 1971). etc. Bruce
