On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:05 AM Gustav Wikström <gus...@whil.se> wrote:
> I'm curious. So take this for what it is; I.e. curiosity. What /exactly/ is > meant with a citation here? Is it a new general concept in Org mode, or is it > something more narrow, as an extension for some specific third party > software? Would I be able to use it without that third party software? What > would the content of a citation be? Is it a link to some source plus > annotations and formatting? Is it only the link? Is it also the formatting? > Is it something else entirely? I'm wondering since Org mode has existing > facilities for much of this already. But maybe not packaged together for > citations just yet? Is there any purpose of thinking of citations as a > wrapper for already existing functionality? Or could the links-syntax be > extended with more properties and auxiliary functionality to fulfill the need > for citations? I'm not sure of the value of this sort of question thrown in the middle of a long-running, many year, conversation. You seem to assume nobody considered this. But to answer anyway ... Citations are references to bibliographic sources. They are a convention for citing references that developed over decades, and even centuries, before the internet even existed. So, they are links of sorts, but lot more. They're complicated because of the addition of diverse, prescriptive, and often obscure output formatting requirements, and also because we have to include additional information beyond just the source. For example, if I cite some thing, I may need to include page number references; like (Doe, 2018:18). This says, X info from the Doc, 2018 source, page 18. So practically, if I submit a manuscript to one journal, it has one set of formatting requirements; perhaps the above citation style, and then a separate bibliography style. If it's rejected and I resubmit it to another journal, it will have a different set of formatting requirements; perhaps citations look like this instead (Doe, 2018 p. 18), or are rendered as footnotes. So we use these systems to decouple authoring from those output requirements. One can say that academic citation practice is inflexible and archaic, and one would be right. But it's the world we live in, and very slow to change. 100 years from now it likely won't look too different! Effectively, I see this long thread, and similar ones before it, as how best to reconcile well-known requirements as reflected in existing systems, but to do so in a way that fits with org. I think we're close! HTH. Bruce