On 2/26/18, Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > I guess these are rhetorical questions because I answered them above.
real questions, fyi, but never mind. >> if not, then i will have to use local mark >> ring. this means i have to think about whether the file i was in was >> the same file or not. > > In practice, when I have no clue about where I was before, I first try > a local ring jump. If it fails, I do a global ring jump. This is > a no-brainer. i see. but 1 step [current org pop behavior] is the only no brainer to me. 2 steps could take me to a similar link in the same file and really confuse me. i actually don't care what file the previous link was in. or what file i am in. org is a forest. i care just what project i am in. but even if i get used to the 2 steps, there are more issues: 1] the local "try a local ring jump" jump will move me away from where i was, which is undesirable. 2] and it seems that the global jump will not be guaranteed to take me to the actual link i did RET on. i might have forgotten what it was. knowing i can get back to it can be reassuring. > The current situation is worse. I have to know how I made it to the > current location, i.e., with an Org command or not. It is harder to > mitigate. can't this be fixed by pushing to both emacs mark rings in addition to the current org behavior? then you can just use emacs mark rings. > I changed `org-mark-ring-push' to also push to Emacs mark ring. This is > better, but, out of the 3 problems I stated at the beginning of this > thread, it only solves the second one. i presume you mean: - Emacs already provides two of them: the local one and the global one. This feels like re-inventing the wheel; the solution seems to require a new command [such as a wrapper to global mark pop to go to the exact location. i presume you will push to it upon RET on a link. if not then we need that too.]. otherwise behavior is changed significantly. - Org mark ring and Emacs mark ring are sometimes out of sync, hence bug #23745; i never encountered the bug, but a push or two presumably fixes it. thank you. - `org-mark-ring-goto' binding (C-c &) conflicts with some minor modes (e.g., Yasnippet). i'm ok with removing the binding. am i really the only objector? if i knew what to do to get my currently non-confusing behavior back i'd be ok with it of course. thank you for engaging.
