I just submitted the 
PR: https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir-lang.github.com/pull/1778

wtorek, 17 września 2024 o 12:47:03 UTC+2 José Valim napisał(a):

> For other environments, using "asdf/kerl" is still the best route. Elixir 
> install mostly relies on prebuilt binaries, which currently are available 
> for Windows (via Erlang) and Ubuntu (via Hex).
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 12:45 PM Jim Freeze <jimf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What do we need to do to support FreeBSD?
>>
>> Dr. Jim Freeze, Ph.D.
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>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 7:06 AM Wojtek Mach <woj...@wojtekmach.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> We already have multiple ways of installing Elixir (
>>> https://elixir-lang.org/install.html) but I believe we can still do 
>>> better. Elixir is cross-platform but Erlang/OTP is not. We need to get OTP 
>>> for **our OS/architecture**, ideally prebuilt or otherwise we need to 
>>> compile it from source. I've listed some challenges with existing 
>>> installation methods here: 
>>> https://github.com/erlef/build-and-packaging-wg/issues/80.
>>>
>>> Since a few releases ago, Elixir project maintains installer for 
>>> Windows, e.g. <
>>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/download/v1.17.2/elixir-otp-27.exe>,
>>>  
>>> but that still requires OTP. The installer tries to be helpful, finds 
>>> whether OTP is already installed and the version matches and otherwise show 
>>> a link to download it. This is a GUI installer that fortunately can be 
>>> running headless, `.\elixir-otp-27.exe /S /D=C:\elixir`, but, again, we 
>>> need to first install OTP.
>>>
>>> I believe we can significantly improve Elixir getting started experience 
>>> by having a "one click install" but for terminals, download a single script 
>>> that installs Elixir and OTP for their system.
>>>
>>> I've created a proof-of-concept called Elixir Install (
>>> https://elixir-install.org) and we can use it in bash  for 
>>> macOS/Ubuntu/Windows:
>>>
>>>     $ curl -fsS https://elixir-install.org/install.sh
>>>     $ sh install.sh eli...@1.17.2 o...@27.0.1
>>>     $ export PATH=$HOME/.elixir-install/installs/otp/27.0.1/bin:$PATH
>>>     $ export 
>>> PATH=$HOME/.elixir-install/installs/elixir/1.17.2-otp-27/bin:$PATH
>>>     iex
>>>
>>> and Powershell on Windows:
>>>
>>>     > curl.exe -fsS https://elixir-install.org/install.bat
>>>     > .\install.bat eli...@1.17.2 o...@27.0.1
>>>     > $env:PATH = 
>>> "$env:USERPROFILE\.elixir-install\installs\otp\27.0.1\bin;$env:PATH"
>>>     > $env:PATH = 
>>> "$env:USERPROFILE\.elixir-install\installs\elixir\1.17.2-otp-27\bin;$env:PATH"
>>>     > iex.bat
>>>
>>> (The actual script is .bat because I noticed that even though Windows 
>>> ships with Powershell, by default running external scripts is prohibited.)
>>>
>>> The script can also be executed without arguments, it will install the 
>>> latest Elixir & OTP (hardcoded inside the script)
>>>
>>>     $ curl -fsS https://elixir-install.org/install.sh | sh
>>>     downloading 
>>> https://github.com/erlef/otp_builds/releases/download/OTP-27.0.1/OTP-27.0.1-macos-arm64.tar.gz
>>>     downloading 
>>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/download/v1.17.2/elixir-otp-27.zip
>>>     (...)
>>>
>>> The script is downloading OTP from these places:
>>>
>>>   *  macOS: <
>>> https://github.com/erlef/otp_builds/releases/download/OTP-27.0.1/OTP-27.0.1-macos-arm64.tar.gz>,
>>>  
>>> see https://github.com/erlef/build-and-packaging-wg/issues/80
>>>   *  Ubuntu: <
>>> https://builds.hex.pm/builds/otp/arm64/ubuntu-22.04/OTP-27.0.1.tar.gz>, 
>>> see <https://github.com/hexpm/bob?tab=readme-ov-file#erlang-builds>. In 
>>> the future I'd like to move it to <github.com/erlef/otp_builds> too.
>>>   *  Windows: <
>>> https://github.com/erlang/otp/releases/download/OTP-27.0.1/otp_win64_27.0.1.zip
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose making this official under elixir-lang.org, that is:
>>>
>>>   *  https://elixir-lang.org/install.sh
>>>   *  https://elixir-lang.org/install.bat
>>>
>>> ## Security
>>>
>>> In my proof of concept there are no additional security considerations 
>>> besides using https. If this is not good enough, I think we could use the 
>>> same security model as `mix local.hex`, that is, we'd download the build, 
>>> the builds.txt (with all builds and their checksums), and the 
>>> builds.txt.signed, and verify the signature against the public key the 
>>> install would ship with. See https://blog.voltone.net/post/25 for more 
>>> information.
>>>
>>> To have an idea, this would be along the lines of:
>>>
>>>     curl -fsSO https://builds.hex.pm/installs/hex-1.x.csv
>>>     curl -fsSO https://builds.hex.pm/installs/hex-1.x.csv.signed
>>>     # run `mix local.public_keys --detailed` and create public_key.pem
>>>     openssl dgst -sha256 -verify public_key.pem -signature <(openssl 
>>> base64 -d -in hex-1.x.csv.signed) hex-1.x.csv
>>>
>>> `openssl` is available on macOS, Windows, and Ubuntu Desktop.
>>>
>>> ## Non-Goals
>>>
>>>   * No version management along the lines of asdf/mise/etc, this is 
>>> better solved by these tools anyway.
>>>
>>> ## Caveats
>>>
>>> In my proof of concept, the script requires sh and unzip on UNIX. (On 
>>> Windows it's using curl too, which is built-in, but can be easily rewritten 
>>> to using Powershell `Invoke-WebRequest`.) One caveat with this is while 
>>> this works out of the box on Ubuntu Desktop,
>>> the official Ubuntu Docker images does not have these and so they need 
>>> to be installed:
>>>
>>>     $ docker run --rm -it ubuntu bash
>>>     docker$ apt update && apt install -y curl unzip
>>>     docker$ curl -fsS https://elixir-install.org/install.sh | sh
>>>
>>> This applies to `openssl` mentioned in the security section too. We 
>>> could solve this by instead of a script have an executable (written in 
>>> Go/Rust/Zig/etc) that would have everything it needs to download, unpack, 
>>> and verify things. I think this would complicate things (executable would 
>>> now or down the road have to be code signed, which fortunately we have some 
>>> experience with already), users will be presented with a list to pick, and 
>>> scripts would need a heuristic to figure out which installer to download.
>>>
>>> ## BEAMup
>>>
>>> Tristan Sloughter is working on [BEAMup](
>>> https://erlangforums.com/t/beamup-a-new-way-to-install-erlang-gleam-and-more-to-come/3912),
>>>  
>>> similar tool but way more ambitious and with bigger scope. I'd like to 
>>> think much smaller scope of elixir-lang.org/install.sh would make it 
>>> easier to maintain. The most complicated underlying piece, having prebuilt 
>>> OTP, is shared between the tools anyway.
>>>
>>> ## Elixir.app
>>>
>>> Brian Cardarella shared a proof-of-concept of a GUI installer for macOS: 
>>> https://x.com/bcardarella/status/1831040691801088308. Again, this would 
>>> have bigger scope and the underlying foundation in prebuilt OTP is shared 
>>> anyway.
>>>
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