> I agree committing builds.txt to the source git repository is pretty 
unorthodox. Perhaps it’s a security malpractice to keep source and build 
artifacts derived from that source code;


If having the text available in source was necessary, I would use a git 
hook. That would address the security implications of a bot account. In 
this scenario, I see no need to have the list in source.


> do you know if there’s a programatic way to manually upload things 
without relying on actions/upload-pages-artifact


actions/upload-pages-artifact is implemented on top of 
actions/upload-artifact (https://github.com/actions/upload-artifact), which 
in turn uses this js lib from GitHub: 
https://github.com/actions/toolkit/tree/main/packages/artifact. So in 
theory you could write a js script to upload things manually.

Keep in mind that uploading the artifact is only one step of the process. 
You also need to deploy the page with actions/deploy-pages, which as far as 
I can tell, doesn't have its own API out of actions yet. I suspect you 
could reverse engineer something in bash from the source, but I feel that 
it will be pretty painful.


>  If there isn’t that seems like a pretty big vendor lock-in (we’re 
already pretty locked in to GitHub but I like to think it’s pretty 
portable... maybe?)


GitLab has its own equivalent: 
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/pages/ which is a lot easier to use 
since they are far more open company. GitLab Pages is also supported on 
self-hosted instances: 
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/administration/pages/source.html which gives us 
an extra degree of control. If at all we were to leave GitHub this could be 
very easily ported to GitLab. I think GitLab is a good enough solution in 
case things go south (I don't see us moving to cgit any time soon).

However, porting previous previous artifacts is non-trivial, so we may 
loose our history unless we sit down and download every version from GH.

-- bp
On Saturday 7 September 2024 at 00:31:00 UTC+5:30 woj...@wojtekmach.pl 
wrote:

> I agree committing builds.txt to the source git repository is pretty 
> unorthodox. Perhaps it’s a security malpractice to keep source and build 
> artifacts derived from that source code; in that case, please disregard 
> this. I thought it’s straightforward enough as opposed to relying on Hex S3 
> bucket for this and while at it solve 
> https://github.com/erlef/setup-beam/issues/260. I did not know about 
> https://github.com/actions/upload-pages-artifact, this is pretty 
> interesting! I couldn’t find much documentation about it besides the action 
> itself and to me it feels a bit like implementation detail of GitHub Pages. 
> For example, do you know if there’s a programatic way to manually upload 
> things without relying on actions/upload-pages-artifact, you know, `curl -X 
> POST ...` or `gh release upload … $ref $file`? If there isn’t that seems 
> like a pretty big vendor lock-in (we’re already pretty locked in to GitHub 
> but I like to think it’s pretty portable... maybe?)
>
> On 6 Sep 2024, at 17:50, Benjamin Philip <benjamin....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Reposting on googlegroups since I'm unsure if my reply was received when 
> replied via email.*
>
> *>  *My proposal is to automate this on GitHub Actions, similar to 
> https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/blob/v0.14.0/.github/workflows/assets.yml#L52:L57.
>  
> (It is a bit annoying though because we can't easily make sure only one 
> GitHub job of this type runs at a time AND there could be other commits 
> happening on main in the meantime. The best I could come up with is: 
> https://github.com/wojtekmach/otp_builds/blob/2209f680a2f8d8e50c73509790bac565ef65b1d3/.github/workflows/update_builds.yml#L30:L67
> .)
>
> Why commit builds.txt to main at all? An alternate solution would be to 
> host it on GitHub Pages <https://pages.github.com/>, maybe at 
> https://hexpm.github.io/bob? `builds.txt` could be deployed to 
> https://hexpm.github.io/bob/main/builds.txt as well as
> https://hexpm.github.io/bob/<ref>/builds.txt on push. Deploying a website 
> to multiple urls is made trivial with the deploy-pages action 
> <https://github.com/actions/deploy-pages>.
>
> This would have a number of advantages over your proposed solution:
>
> 1. Concurrent runs are not a concern - each commit is deployed to its own 
> url for reference, and the latest of the actions is deployed to the 
> bob/main url.
> 2. We do not have bot accounts committing to main, convoluting the git 
> history. A bot account may also have security problems
> 3. A workflow like this would be far easier to maintain since similar 
> workflows are fairly common (so docs, guides etc. may exist). Plus GitHub 
> does most of the heavy lifting.
>
> A potential concern is if the artifact for the site will expire. Looking 
> through the upload-pages-artifact action 
> <https://github.com/actions/upload-pages-artifact> docs, there are no 
> expiries as of right now. However, we are at risk of GitHub deciding to 
> expire old artifacts in the future.
>
> -- bp
>
> On Friday 6 September 2024 at 19:31:22 UTC+5:30 woj...@wojtekmach.pl 
> wrote:
>
>> For tools like asdf, setup-beam, and similar it is very useful to get a 
>> list of all Elixir releases (included per-OTP builds). Doing this through 
>> GitHub REST API can be slightly complicated due to dealing with JSON, 
>> pagination, and rate-limiting.
>>
>> Hex/Bob keeps a https://builds.hex.pm/builds/elixir/builds.txt which has 
>> none of these problems.
>>
>> Since a few release ago, Elixir build are available on Elixir GitHub 
>> release. And so to keep similar things together, I'd like to propose adding 
>> something like (or exactly) such builds.txt file in the GitHub repository. 
>> This way we could, although there are no such plans at the moment, 
>> deprecate Hex/Bob-maintainted Elixir builds.
>>
>> With this proposal, the way to get all Elixir builds could be simply:
>>
>>     $ curl -fL https://github.com/hexpm/bob/raw/main/builds.txt
>>
>> Since Elixir 1.14, the builds in GitHub releases follow the pattern 
>> elixir-otp-VSN.zip. Prior to that it was Precompiled.zip, compiled against 
>> the oldest supported OTP version for that Elixir release (
>> https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/compatibility-and-deprecations.html#between-elixir-and-erlang-otp).
>>  
>> I'd still add them to the builds file for informational purposes but I'm OK 
>> with not doing that either.
>>
>> We could just adopt the Hex builds.txt format, here's an example:
>>
>> v1.17.2 47abe2d107e654ccede845356773bcf6e11ef7cb 2024-07-06T21:18:45Z 
>> c1a0860b805ef4925ca9e97ecf9f84b3d3fc62e6a48a91c1cbe6344c3b02400b
>> v1.17.2-otp-25 47abe2d107e654ccede845356773bcf6e11ef7cb 
>> 2024-07-06T21:18:45Z 
>> c1a0860b805ef4925ca9e97ecf9f84b3d3fc62e6a48a91c1cbe6344c3b02400b
>> v1.17.2-otp-26 47abe2d107e654ccede845356773bcf6e11ef7cb 
>> 2024-07-06T21:20:26Z 
>> a2e32bf61a8dd1354ce41bed891cee72e02cbf5b4532fa190416547f422a97b4
>> v1.17.2-otp-27 47abe2d107e654ccede845356773bcf6e11ef7cb 
>> 2024-07-06T21:23:11Z 
>> 4e32e8761bd73916feaa24eaa98d86b1d929039e38e778b37553b0330f75b9f6
>>
>> This way existing tools can easily switch to it. Since it'd be a new URL 
>> though, we have a chance to potentially improve it. Here's one idea which I 
>> believe will make it super clear what's what:
>>
>> <ref_name>[-otp-VSN] <date> git:<ref> sha256:<sha>
>>
>> e.g.:
>>
>> v1.17.2-otp-27 2024-07-06T21:23:11Z 
>> git:47abe2d107e654ccede845356773bcf6e11ef7cb 
>>  sha256:4e32e8761bd73916feaa24eaa98d86b1d929039e38e778b37553b0330f75b9f6
>>
>> (See https://github.com/hexpm/bob/pull/188#discussion_r1701912589)
>>
>> My proposal is to automate this on GitHub Actions, similar to 
>> https://github.com/livebook-dev/livebook/blob/v0.14.0/.github/workflows/assets.yml#L52:L57.
>>  
>> (It is a bit annoying though because we can't easily make sure only one 
>> GitHub job of this type runs at a time AND there could be other commits 
>> happening on main in the meantime. The best I could come up with is: 
>> https://github.com/wojtekmach/otp_builds/blob/2209f680a2f8d8e50c73509790bac565ef65b1d3/.github/workflows/update_builds.yml#L30:L67
>> .)
>>
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