Sure. This would be my first time contributing to Erlang/OTP, so I would 
definitely appreciate some guidance.

On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 16:42:09 UTC+2 José Valim wrote:

> That's perfect. I believe the first step is to get those operations into 
> Erlang/OTP, likely under the file module. Would you like to send a PR for 
> that? I can probably provide some guidance around it. :)
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:49 AM Brendan Ball <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
>> I am looking at the Rust Cargo implementation since I know that works: 
>> https://github.com/rust-lang/cargo/blob/master/src/cargo/util/flock.rs
>> It makes use of flock (https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/flock.2.html) 
>> on unix and LockFileEx (
>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/fileapi/nf-fileapi-lockfileex)
>>  
>> on windows.
>> I believe these OS APIs take care of removing file locks on process exit.
>> Locks can be implemented on a best effort basis for 
>> platforms/environments that support it. E.g. it seems that Cargo doesn't 
>> implement locks on NFS filesystems.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 12:09:07 UTC+2 José Valim wrote:
>>
>>> My biggest concern with a file lock is: what happens if the other 
>>> process terminates unexpectedly and does not remove the file lock? How can 
>>> we ensure this won't happen?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 9:47 AM Brendan Ball <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> We've been getting weird errors when building releases:
>>>> ```
>>>> Compiling 42 files (.ex)
>>>> ** (File.Error) could not remove files and directories recursively from 
>>>> "/home/brendan/dev/app/_build/prod/lib/shared_app/priv": file already 
>>>> exists
>>>>     (elixir 1.13.2) lib/file.ex:1292: File.rm_rf!/1
>>>>     (mix 1.13.2) lib/mix/utils.ex:444: Mix.Utils.symlink_or_copy/3
>>>>     (mix 1.13.2) lib/mix/project.ex:738: anonymous fn/5 in 
>>>> Mix.Project.build_structure/2
>>>>     (elixir 1.13.2) lib/enum.ex:2396: 
>>>> Enum."-reduce/3-lists^foldl/2-0-"/3
>>>>     (mix 1.13.2) lib/mix/project.ex:737: Mix.Project.build_structure/2
>>>>     (mix 1.13.2) lib/mix/tasks/compile.all.ex:34: 
>>>> Mix.Tasks.Compile.All.run/1
>>>>     (mix 1.13.2) lib/mix/task.ex:397: anonymous fn/3 in 
>>>> Mix.Task.run_task/3
>>>>     (mix 1.13.2) lib/mix/project.ex:396: Mix.Project.in_project/4
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> We build different releases concurrently after running a single `mix 
>>>> compile`.
>>>> It turns out that the different release builds were not running in 
>>>> isolated environments, but shared the filesystem. This is a very weird and 
>>>> confusing error especially since most devs didn't know why it was breaking 
>>>> and didn't know that releases were being run in a shared environment.
>>>>
>>>> This seems like something that might happen fairly often in CI 
>>>> environments, so I really think it's in everyone's interest to improve 
>>>> this.
>>>> Most good build systems/compilers implement some kind of file lock for 
>>>> operations that can't be done concurrently. I think implementing this 
>>>> would 
>>>> be a minimal acceptable solution. Ideally the file lock is used to wait 
>>>> until the operation can be performed, but even just an error saying you 
>>>> can't run operations in parallel would be better than what we have now.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Brendan Ball
>>>>  
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