Hi there,

we're preparing a message-based API as well, so one can use `receive` or 
`handle_info` when needed. However, we expect that functionality to be used 
mostly in elixir scripts/livebooks, where `await` is going to cover the 
majority of cases, saving us from having `receive` blocks everywhere. It 
can be also compared to `Task.await`, which has similar problems to what 
you described, yet it proves useful in particular situations. Another point 
is that extracting variables from a match can be used in many other 
scenarios and currently it requires hundreds of lines of code to implement 
properly AFAIK :P

Regards,
Mateusz

poniedziałek, 24 stycznia 2022 o 14:56:55 UTC+1 José Valim napisał(a):

> Honestly, I am not sure if it is worth encapsulating the event as you 
> propose compared to a receive. For example, what happens if you want to 
> receive at least one message from two distinct pipelines? What happens if 
> you are inside a GenServer, where any receive pattern can be harmful and 
> handle_info should be preferred?
>
> The main reason "assert_receive" exists is not because of the convenience, 
> but rather the improved error message. And those scenarios are less common 
> too (at least you are not running a test inside a GenServer).
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 2:50 PM Andrzej Podobiński <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> thanks for your interest! I'm working on a specific pipeline in the 
>> Membrane framework. The API of this pipeline allows the user to subscribe 
>> for events that this pipeline emits, and then synchronously wait for these 
>> events. The idea is to provide a macro that wraps the receive block to make 
>> waiting for the event nicer to the user - just like assert_receive. 
>>
>> https://github.com/membraneframework/membrane_core/blob/remote-controlled-pipeline/lib/membrane/remote_controlled/pipeline.ex#L55
>> ps. I'm aware that the current implementation of "await" I've linked 
>> won't work because of e.g. lack of macro expansion.
>> niedziela, 23 stycznia 2022 o 18:58:14 UTC+1 [email protected] 
>> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm wondering what sort of code you're trying to write where a receive 
>>> ... after block wouldn't work well in this situation. Furthermore what do 
>>> we do in the error case if the receive times out? For ExUnit this is quite 
>>> simple: the test fails, but in your application code this doesn't mean 
>>> anything. If you get to the point that you're specifying control from with 
>>> this new macro then you've just recreated receive with more steps. Could 
>>> you provide some code samples for what you're trying to achieve?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Theron
>>> On Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 9:22:43 AM UTC-6 
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lastly, I was trying to implement a macro with similar functionality as 
>>>> assert_receive from ExUnit. The purpose of this macro was to allow the 
>>>> user 
>>>> to wait synchronously for a message specified by a pattern. The given 
>>>> pattern may contain variables that the user is interested to extract from 
>>>> the arrived message (exactly as in ExUnit.assert_receive). I've noticed 
>>>> that there is a significant amount of code that expands the given pattern 
>>>> and then collects the variables from it etc. in order to properly extract 
>>>> variables from the pattern. I have a feeling that it is not a valid 
>>>> solution to use an ExUnit.assert_receive in the production code, so maybe 
>>>> it would be possible to add the function of similar functionality to the 
>>>> Process module. Something like Process.await_message(). Another possibly 
>>>> better solution could be adding some functionality to the Macro module 
>>>> that 
>>>> would cover expanding the macro and collecting variables etc. (
>>>> https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/blob/a64d42f5d3cb6c32752af9d3312897e8cd5bb7ec/lib/ex_unit/lib/ex_unit/assertions.ex#L467
>>>> )
>>>>
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