I'm in favor of them being nilsafe by default. Allen Madsen http://www.allenmadsen.com
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:24 AM Tor Bjornrud <bjorn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wouldn't mind having opts for something like this. Avoids creating a > slew of Access functions that then become difficult to sift through. > > %{"items" => nil} |> get_in(["items", Access.at(0, nilsafe: true) > > > On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:10:04 PM UTC-6, Greg Vaughn wrote: >> >> Thanks, José. I agree with the need to be consistent. I will look at the >> bigger picture, though, like Manfred I find the addition of "maybe" to be >> awkward, so my preference is to have the existing recommended functions in >> the Access module intended for use with get_in to be consistently nil safe. >> I'm open to more ideas, too. >> >> -Greg Vaughn >> >> > On Jan 28, 2020, at 12:45 PM, José Valim <jose...@dashbit.co> wrote: >> > >> > The proposal is reasonable however it would introduce an inconsistency >> since the other selectors in Access, such as Access.key, are also not nil >> safe. So whatever solution we choose needs to be consistent. >> > >> > One possible suggestion is to introduce a "Access.maybe" that composes >> but composition would have to be back to front: >> > >> > %{"items" => nil} |> get_in(["items", Access.at(0) |> Access.maybe]) >> > >> > Another idea is to introduce maybe_at, maybe_key, maybe_key! and so on. >> But I am not sure if this is desirable. Thoughts? >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 7:33 PM Greg Vaughn <gva...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I propose that the function returned from Access.at/1 special case nil >> such that the overall Kernel.get_in/2 call returns nil instead of raising >> an error. >> > >> > Rationale: >> > I originally blamed this on Kernel.get_in/2 and I'd like to thank Eric >> Meadows-Jönsson for explaining the underlying reason to me on Slack. >> > >> > I like to think of Kernel.get_in/2 as a nil-safe way of plucking values >> out of nested data structures, but I learned today that is only partially >> correct. The nil-safety comes from the underlying Access.get/2 calls. The >> docs for get_in includes: >> > >> > In case any of the entries in the middle returns nil, nil will be >> returned as per the Access module: >> > iex> users = %{"john" => %{age: 27}, "meg" => %{age: 23}} >> > iex> get_in(users, ["unknown", :age]) >> > nil >> > >> > and I expected use of Access.at/1 in my keys to act similarly, but it >> doesn't. For example: >> > >> > iex(185)> %{"items" => ["desired_value"]} |> get_in(["items", >> Access.at(0)]) >> > "desired_value" >> > iex(186)> %{"items" => nil} |> get_in(["items", Access.at(0)]) >> > ** (RuntimeError) Access.at/1 expected a list, got: nil >> > (elixir) lib/access.ex:663: Access.at/4 >> > >> > I propose that the function returned from Access.at/1 special case nil >> such that the overall get_in/2 call returns nil instead of raising an >> error. I have not dug into the source yet but I'm happy to work up a PR if >> there is interest in this change. >> > >> > -Greg Vaughn >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to elixir-l...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/6B6AB775-F3D5-40E5-BFBD-9852FBCBD1D0%40gmail.com. >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to elixir-l...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CAGnRm4KZPZ5mpP6SSzhmq3jpuZBYA1irpmOa19UNH2fS_3QKQA%40mail.gmail.com. >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "elixir-lang-core" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to elixir-lang-core+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/1ae0b9d3-9471-4750-8734-281033e9a1dc%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/1ae0b9d3-9471-4750-8734-281033e9a1dc%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "elixir-lang-core" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to elixir-lang-core+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/elixir-lang-core/CAK-y3Cu%2BGBO1RWsdAjAHoaukV3w4QJPPdqqNU_miQ_%3Dv5%3DdDeQ%40mail.gmail.com.