I thought we were doing it already, what is Midori installed under?
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Alfredo Hernández < [email protected]> wrote: > David, if we did that with Noise, it should be done with every elementary > application. > El 19/11/2012 18:02, "David Gomes" <[email protected]> escribió: > > I wouldn't call this a rename. The App name would be Noise, for all >> effects, but it would be installed under the name of Media Player. >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Darcy Brás da Silva < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think that translating names would only make sense if the names were >>> like 'web browser, media player, and so on' else they are primary nouns >>> and so not translatable. >>> >>> I think there is no gain in changing the name at this point, else then >>> showing project immaturity. At this point the name already changed once, >>> and was due to developer conflict of interests. Changing again may just >>> lead to confusion and make people think that it happened again. Even >>> with proper disclaimers is to easy to pass the wrong message. >>> Not to mention some people contributed to a previous pool when the name >>> 'noise' was selected, now a pool made in FB a contrived medium which a >>> lot of good people don't use for whatever reasons they deem does not >>> seem fair to the community that contributed before or the ones that >>> don't use FB. >>> >>> Those are my two cents on this matter. >>> >>> On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 16:38 -0005, Benjamin VanMeggelen wrote: >>> > I understand the issue with the translation. From what I understand >>> > (as french being my second language) the translation from Noise to >>> > french is Bruit. I'm not sure if the application titles have been (or >>> > will be) translated, but if so "Bruit" gives the same proper >>> > description of what Noise is in english. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Corentin Noël <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > > Okay, I disagree with you all then because in my language (french) >>> > > there is two way to pronounce that : >>> > > In french, and that word exists and means "problems" >>> > > In english, and that is really hard because there is an double voyel >>> > > (no-ise) so it's not that good for us. >>> > > I let the democracy choose, but here are my two cents. >>> > > >>> > > Regards, >>> > > Corentin Noël (tintou) >>> > > >>> > > Benjamin VanMeggelen a écrit : >>> > > >>> > > >I also agree that Noise is an appropriate name for the player. I >>> > > feel that this naming scheme is most relevant to the player, as >>> > > opposed to Tempo or some of the others that have been mentioned. >>> > > Noise seems more generic and straight-forward as to what the app is >>> > > meant to do. >>> > > > >>> > > >On Mon, 19 Nov, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Felix Akkermans wrote: >>> > > >I also agree with Jaap. Both names are equal to me in >>> > > communicational value, so definitely not worth the effort and >>> > > hassle. >>> > > > >>> > > >On 11/19/2012 03:46 PM, Chris Triantafillis wrote: >>> > > >I agree with Jaap and i'm against rename it... >>> > > >Also i don't like Tempo, Noise is much better... >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen >>> > > >Don't we already present Noise in the OS as a music player? Doesn't >>> > > the icon have the purpose of showing the user what the app probably >>> > > does? >>> > > > >>> > > >IMO "Noise" relates more to music than "Tempo" does. Also, if we >>> > > are going this way with Noise because the name should directly show >>> > > people what the app does, we should probably rename Geary and Midori >>> > > too. And the makers of Empathy, Skype, Spotify, Steam, Firefox, >>> > > Opera, Launchpad, Google Plus, Banshee, Clementine should probably >>> > > have to start to think about a new name too. >>> > > > >>> > > >When we moved from Beatbox to our own fork the choice was made to >>> > > name it "Noise". That already resulted in some confusion among the >>> > > users. Renaming it again will only yet again result in more >>> > > confusion. >>> > > > >>> > > >There will always be people who say a certain name is not good for >>> > > the app, or that it is weird. The same will happen when you rename >>> > > it to "Tempo", or any other name for that matter. >>> > > > >>> > > >IMO Noise should only be renamed if there is a really, really good >>> > > reason to, and some users complaining it may sound negative is a >>> > > good reason, i think. Also when you choose to rename it, the new >>> > > name should be significantly better than the old name, if you want >>> > > to show the confused users that it was really necessary and useful >>> > > to make the change. >>> > > > >>> > > >Just my two cents, >>> > > >Jaap >>> > > > >>> > > >Op ma, nov 19, 2012 at 3:14 ,David Gomes schreef: >>> > > > >>> > > >It's trivial to you because you know what Noise is. It's a media >>> > > player, you know it. >>> > > > >>> > > >For people who don't, it's better if that name it is installed >>> > > under in the computer is "Music Player" or something like that. It's >>> > > easier for most people. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen | Mobiel wrote: >>> > > >What is "many"? Seems like a trivial thing to me... >>> > > > >>> > > >-- >>> > > >Jaap >>> > > > >>> > > >"Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" schreef: >>> > > > >>> > > >>2012/11/19 Jaap Broekhuizen : >>> > > >>> Is there an actual logical reason to rename Noise? >>> > > >> >>> > > >>"Noise" is perceived as something negative by many (the kind of >>> > > people >>> > > >>who are not crazy about metal or industrial), that's it AFAIK. >>> > > >> >>> > > >>-- >>> > > >>Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>> > > >>OS architect @ elementary >>> > > >-- >>> > > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> > > >Post to : [email protected] >>> > > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> > > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >-- >>> > > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> > > >Post to : [email protected] >>> > > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> > > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >-- >>> > > >Best Regards, >>> > > >Chris Triantafillis >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >-- >>> > > >Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> > > >Post to : [email protected] >>> > > >Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> > > >More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Darcy Brás da Silva <[email protected]> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >>
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