Don,

Maybe a gate implementation might work ... you set me on a search that
led me to http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/ultimatic/ultimatic.html
... and that's probably the info you recalled. A quick glance won't do
for this one: I'll need to study it a bit and see if it'll do the trick.

It appears that the K12 keyer could solve the problem, if the above
won't. $17 for http://k1el.tripod.com/K12.html is fairly modest.

I'll get back to you all shortly with the conclusion!

Many thanks,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
Williamsport, PA 17701


Don Wilhelm wrote:
Alan,

That places you in my chronological age range - yes, I have my 50 year pin from ARRL too!

I believe you are referring to "Ultimatic" keying - the paddle that was last operated is the one that takes precedence - none of the "idiotic" alternating dots and dashes (which to me is confusing). Yes, I have tried to use Iambic, and have never been successful - I resort to 'slap keying' and/or a single lever paddle. Ultimatic was the first keying method introduced with the Ultimatic Keyer (a vacuum tube design), and it is a puzzle to me why it has not been continued - perhaps the Curtis chip popularization of Iambic ruined the best keying method available - not to mention the adoption of the Iambic B mode which adds an opposite element at the end of a character - initially that was a mistake by the Curtic designers. but they successfully sold it as an "enhancement".

There is a cure. Take a look at the K12 keyer by K1EL which supports Ultimatic mode. Alternately, there was a fellow on the Elecaft reflector (about 6 months ago - maybe longer, my memory gets compressed with age) who developed both a logic gate and a pic implementation of an Ultimastic to Iambic converter. I have the parts on a perfboard for that, but have not yet finished it. Look in the archives because I have forgotten who it was that produced the design.

BTW - I have lobbied Elecraft for inclusion of Ultimatic keying support for the K2 and the K3, but all I have gotten so far is a "maybe" - I guess Wayne is occupied with more important things to do than support us few "old farts" who remember and liked the Ultimatic keyer".

73,
Don W3FPR

Alan D. Wilcox wrote:
Hello,

Fifty years ago I designed and built a tube keyer to replace my Vibroplex. Then a transistor keyer. All this before the iambic keyers came along ...

Left paddle = dots
Right = dashes
Squeeze both paddles = dashes only.

The technique I developed was to
1. Always squeeze _both_ keys for dashes; if I was a bit late getting the dash paddle closed, the logic turned the dot into a dash (as long as the dot hadn't finished, of course.)
2. If dots followed dashes, just simply let loose of the right paddle.
3. A string of dots would turn into dashes simply by squeezing both paddles together.

I could send good CW at fairly-respectable speeds, and was happy. For decades ... until I got the K2 and the K3.

Then I tried to get the hang of iambic keying, and the best I can do is slap-keying or stagger along at 10 wpm or slower iambic.

Questions:
1. Is there a way to kludge the K2 or K3 keying logic for squeeze keying? 2. Does anyone make a keyer with my logic? WHO? All I've ever seen are iambic. 3. If neither, and I wind up building my new keyer myself, is this something anybody else would want?

Cheers,
Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
Williamsport, PA 17701



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