Brian and all,

The number of poles is not the primary deciding factor. It is the type of filter (Cohn, Chebychev, Butterworth, Gaussian to 6 dB, Gaussian to 12 dB, etc.) that will influence the group delay. See the discussion on filters in Experimental Methods for RF Design for further information.

In general, those filters with a 'rounded nose' will have the best group delay characteristics - but that is only a generalization, the details will tell "the rest of the story".

73,
Don W3FPR

Brian Lloyd wrote:
A number of messages have gone back and forth here about roofing filters. We did mention group delay but I wonder if Elecraft can provide group delay characteristics for the various filters offered for the K3.

Seems to me that, in general, fewer poles tend to provide better group delay in a filter at the expense of the skirts. OTOH, if the skirts in the roofing filter are sufficient to attenuate a strong, undesired signal so that it cannot cause desense, then it strikes me that the 5-pole filters might actually provide superior performance for digital communications.

73 de Brian, WB6RQN
Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com


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