I’m going to disagree with you completely. While I still enjoy SSB and CW, FT8 
has supercharged my interest in radio. I find the study of propagation 
fascinating now that I can watch pipelines around the globe open and close in 
real time through digital communications. Watching WSJT-X streams and seeing 
the propagation paths on different bands and matching that to atmospheric 
conditions has given me a new appreciation for what’s happening over my head, 
and I never get tired of observing and trying to figure out exactly what’s 
making the bands open and close as I watch digital calls appear and disappear. 

I don’t believe the existence of digital technologies has anything to do with 
the decline in radio popularity. I think it’s far more likely that the growth 
in instant digital communications mediums using cell phones has a lot to do 
with it. I also firmly believe that, like any other human endeavor, it’s not 
possible to interest people in radio unless they already have a predisposition 
to it. They have to have that spark in them (no pun intended). All we can do is 
show them an outlet for their interest. 

73, Adrian 
K7RJS

> On Aug 30, 2025, at 10:13 PM, dyno lab via Elecraft 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> FT8 and some other modes have made it too easy to sit on our backsides and 
> let the computer do the work while we gradually lose interest.
> It takes the excitement out of making contacts the hard way.
> No wonder so many are giving up.
> 
> There was a time when we built our own equipment and could not wait to put it 
> on the air.
> We need something that makes it hard and interesting again.
> 
> I thank the Ol Man Upstairs that I still find it really fun and interesting 
> to see a problem and go about building something to fix it.
> 
> 73,
> Hal
> W7YNC
> DynoLab.com
> 
> 
>> On 08/30/2025 6:51 PM PDT Glenn Maclean via Elecraft 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have to say. The on going Morse Code Class I teach at a local bar because 
>> the owner is a ham and welcomes the class. I am little by little getting 
>> more students that see our table and are curious. I give them my spiel about 
>> ham radio and why Morse Code. Which is when boom boom the lights go out 
>> Morse Code will always come through! Then the next thing I know I end up 
>> with a new student who wants to become a ham! The new students are in their 
>> 20’s - 30’s
>> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Why ?? (Why is it necessary that we talk other people into ham radio in
>>> the first place??)? WELL, In the USA, the average age (determined by my
>>> browser) is 65 years old.? That means in 20-30 years, that 800K number
>>> will be 400K without adding new (younger hams) ???
>>> 
>>> My kids are in there 30's (and have let the license lapse - but plan on
>>> renewing ??)
>>> My wife is not active...
>>> I know a number of hams in retirement communities that are not active.
>>> How many of the 800K are active ??
>>> 
>>> I have a friend (Scout admin I work with/for) that had a novice in grade
>>> school, she let it lapse a number of years ago.? I have been giving her
>>> Tech class info and she may have time to do the zoom class...? She did
>>> like CW (still knows it).? I may give/lend her my "old" NorCal 40.? It
>>> would be nice to have a kit again ??? for new hams.? The NorCal 40 is
>>> simple to use and a single band dipole is simple to "throw" into a tree...
>>> 
>>> 73, Steve WB3LGC
>>> 
>>>> On 7/26/25 18:57, David Gilbert via Elecraft wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly.
>>>> 
>>>> Trying to talk people into being interested in things we're interested
>>>> in for the reasons we're interested in them is a foolish endeavor.?
>>>> Evangelism is boring and off-putting.? The best we can do is describe
>>>> what ham radio can offer and let people decide if that has any
>>>> interest for them.
>>>> 
>>>> If we have to convince somebody that ham radio is interesting to them,
>>>> then it probably isn't and even if they go along it won't last.
>>>> 
>>>> Which brings me to this question:
>>>> *
>>>> Why is it necessary that we talk other people into ham radio in the
>>>> first place?? * There are supposedly close to 800,000 licensed hams in
>>>> the U.S., which is a bigger market and a bigger pool of like minds
>>>> than LOTS of other activities.? Is there some sort of collective
>>>> insecurity complex going on every time this comes up? And it comes up
>>>> with annoying frequency on almost every forum.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave? ?AB7E
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/26/2025 2:27 PM, Fred Jensen via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>> They almost all view ham radio from a utilitarian perspective, not as
>>>>> a hobby ... they have hobbies and interests. Probably the largest
>>>>> non-work interests were in the outdoors.
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