I agree.  Pure water has very little loss, and while rain water isn't pure it's not bad.  In my opinion the primary effect that water has on clean ladder line is that it changes the velocity factor.

However, I'm sure it's a completely different story for ladder line that is dirty and porous insulation from aging.  I could imagine it being pretty lossy at voltage peaks along the line if it is being used with a high SWR.

Dave   AB7E


On 7/20/2025 1:51 PM, Al Lorona via Elecraft wrote:
Here are two more centavos to add to the debate:

https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg252065.html

Shortly after I made that post, I received a private reply from a ham who took 
loss measurements while his window line was submerged in his pool! He measured 
no significant increase in loss. Based largely on this data point I believe 
that rain water on window line has far less effect on its *loss* than soapy 
water does, for the reasons I gave in that post.

It's okay to dislike window line-- despise it, even-- but let's be careful of 
repeating false information about it that seems to have been debunked.

R,

Al  W6LX/4

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