Hi Dave,
I can think of three reasons why in-depth discussion of the K4 is not taking 
place here on this reflector.
The biggest reason is this reflector does not support HTML or attachments. With 
the K4 being able to attach screenshots of the K4 display is very important in 
trouble shooting and answering questions about settings.
The second reason is the file support on the K4 reflector. Where files can be 
deposited for subscribers to access at will. This reflector does not support 
that kind of depository. This reflector does have an archive like the K4 
reflector, but in my opinion the search capability on the K4 reflector is 
superior.
The third reason is , while this reflector has served us well when Elecraft had 
only a few products, now it has become a real navigation issue with so many 
products. Yes, you can set rules to get only those K4, K3, etc. to go to a 
certain folder, but that requires the sender to put the appropriate subject 
line in. This doesn't always happen. The K4 reflector example is people will 
change the discussion of a thread and not update the subject line. On the K4 
reflector or the KX reflector you know the discussion is only about the K4 or 
KX radios.
Fourth on the group.io reflectors there is a dedicated administrator. Back in 
the day it was easy for Wayne and Eric to administer this reflector now with so 
much activity it is hard for them to do that. They have now passed that on to 
Keith. Keith's job is to fix K3s and K4s. I would prefer as a customer that he 
continue doing that and not worry about administering this reflector.
As to being a nonmember of groups.io, it is a simple task to join groups.io and 
subscribe to any groups/reflectors you wish. I belong to eight groups, all 
related to amateur radio.
Also, I have mentioned before you don't have to own or even aspire to own a K4 
to join the K4 reflector. There are subscribers there that their main interest 
is SDRs in general etc.
And one more reason. There are subscribers on the K4 reflector that only own a 
K4 and no other Elecraft equipment and they don't want to filter through all 
the other discussions about Elecraft equipment they don't own or care about. 
They are not going to subscribe to this reflector.
I hope that explains things for you Dave. Sign up on the K4 reflector and learn 
more about it. You are more than welcome there.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On 
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 08:34
To: Elecraft Discussion List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] K4 discussion on groups.io

While separate groups for K1, K2, K3, K4, KX2, etc are up to whoever sets them 
up, lets not forget the main product for Elecraft at the moment is the K4, so 
why not discuss it on this open group that is run by Elecraft?

The K4 groups.io archive is closed to non members, which isn't helpful to 
anyone who doesn't wish to join but merely wants more information on a product.

73 Dave G4AON
K1, K2, KX3, K4D (#286), KPA500
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