Oh no! I fear this is going to get bogged down in definitions. From Wikipedia:


"Limiting can refer to non-linear clipping, in which a signal is passed through 
normally but 'sheared off' when it would normally exceed a certain threshold. 
It can also refer to a type of variable-gain audio level compression, in which 
the gain of an amplifier is changed very quickly to  prevent the signal from 
going over a certain amplitude.
* Hard limiting ("clipping") is a limiting action in which there is 
    * (a) over the permitted dynamic range, negligible variation in the 
expected characteristic of the output signal, and
    * (b) a steady-state signal, at the maximum permitted level, for the 
duration of each period when the output would otherwise be required to exceed 
the permitted dynamic range in order to correspond to the transfer function of 
the device."



AGC of the type we're discussing falls under this definition, and not the 
non-linear "back-to-back diode" clipping you might be thinking of. Look at the 
first graph under the section titled "Adjusting AGC SLP" and observe that for 
Slope=15, above about -104 dBm, the output follows a horizontal line. Moreover, 
the very first table that follows that graph shows that with Slope=15 if the 
input increases by 10 dB the output increase is virtually zero. That transfer 
characteristic is what audio engineers call "hard limiting".

I also fear we may be talking past each other when we say 'linear' and 
'nonlinear'. The AGC curve is 'nonlinear' in the sense that if we pour more RF 
input into the receiver, the output doesn't get any bigger. It's like that by 
design. All I was saying is that it doesn't sound good to me. I'm very happy 
there is Slope = 5.

Call it whatever you want; the curve speaks for itself.

Al  W6LX




>>> There is a huge difference between AGC action (which is

>>> simply a reduction in gain with linearity retained) and hard limiting. 
______________________________________________________________
Elecraft mailing list
Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm
Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net
Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com

Reply via email to