I loved Ron’s (AC7AC’s) alternative method for measuring power losses in an ATU 
(reprinted below.)  But if I remember my high school physics correctly, 
wouldn’t one have to know the specific heat, and the mass, of every bit of 
matter in the enclosure that participates in the thermal equilibrium in order 
to calculate the energy loss from the temperature rise?  That made me wonder if 
Ron offered it tongue-in-cheek.

That suspicion in turn called to mind the classic story of the bored physics 
class, in which the students were given a barometer and a battery-powered clock 
and asked to describe how they would determine the height of a nearby building. 
 One answer was to drop the barometer from the roof, use the clock to measure 
how long it took to hit the ground, and then working backwards from the known 
rate of gravitational acceleration calculate the distance it traveled.  Another 
was to lower the barometer on a string from the roof just to the point where it 
missed grazing the ground, start it swinging and then measure the period of the 
pendulum which is, friction ignored, a constant function of its length.  Third 
(for the pilots in the crowd), measure the barometric pressure at the roof and 
at the ground and, using the standard barometric pressure reduction rate and 
assuming a standard temperature lapse rate, calculate the difference between 
the two altitudes.  Finally, one fellow who was not destined to become a 
physicist but rather something else entirely, scoffed at having to climb to the 
roof.  He said, we’ll just go one flight down to the basement – where we give 
the superintendent the barometer and the clock as a bribe for him to tell us 
how tall the building is.

I know it’s OT.  Sorry.  But I haven’t had an excuse to retell that one in 
years. 

Ted, KN1CBR




On 11/3/16, 3:16 PM, "Elecraft on behalf of [email protected]" 
<[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]> wrote:

    
    A more direct approach would be to isolate the ATU in a very well insulated
    enclosure, transmit, and measure the temperature rise until it stabilizes.
    You can then calculate how much energy is being dissipated by the ATU and
    becoming heat. That requires the ATU be carefully isolated from the rest of
    the KX3 and be in a very well insulated enclosure to avoid loss of heat to
    the environment, something not practical to do with a KX3. It is, however, a
    valid way to determine losses in external devices like an RF transformer
    (e.g. "balun").
    
    

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