Bob,

I think you forgot to multiply by 24hrs/day for your annual energy consumption, but your conclusion is still valid. Even at a ~440 mAH for one year, the battery drain can be ignored for practical purposes. Most of the current is consumed by the shunt regulator and the resistor dividers on the +12V line.

The LED does blink faintly as an 'alive' check when KX3 power is off, at a 1/2 second period. This is how often the microcontroller wakes up to check power status. Maybe an adventurous individual will put a scope across the resistor in series with the LED to measure average current, and the result may be surprising on how little it takes to produce a visible blink.

73,
Rich  AC7MA


On 03/16/2013 11:07 AM, Bob wrote:
Some earlier posts have referred to a LED on the charger/clock board
that seems to blink 24/7.  So there may be more load than just the
clock on the internal battery.  I haven't noticed anything glowing or
blinking on mine.

Still your message made me curious, so I measured the drain from the
internal batteries (8 NiMH cells).  With the radio turned off, it was
about 50 microamps.  This was surprising to me as clock chips usually
pull much less than that (a factor of 30 less give or take).

So I pulled out the schematics and found the KX3 uses a Microchip
PIC24F16K101 as the time keeper and charge controller.  The chip spec
puts the real time clock drain at 350 nano amps, and says that the run
mode currents should be 8 uA or so.  Sure enough, there is a Yellow
LED shown on the schematic (D2).  But like I said, I don’t see it
blinking on mine.

Given the 50uA current draw I experienced, that is still only 18 mAH
over an entire year.  If you are talking 2800 mAH for a Energizer
Ultimate Lithium, that is less than 1% of its capacity.  So that can't
explain the early demise of your batteries.  You would expect those
cells to say above 11 volts for almost their entire life, which would
be about 12 hours of KX3 receive, and about 6 hours at with occasional
transmit at 5 watts.

Now you mentioned that you keep the radio powered by a external supply
and really only use the Lithium batteries for time keeping.  If that
were the case then you would need to have an external supply that was
always above about 12.4 volts to keep the Lithium batteries from
partially discharging.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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