I like having a printed manual that actually matches my radio hardware. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
...bill nr4c -----Original message----- From: "hawley, charles j jr" <[email protected]> To: Arthur Burke <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jun 11, 2012 19:40:48 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] - Manuals (was KX3 and KPA500) Well...if you buy a computer program, you pretty much would have a computer. It seems possible that some radio buyers would not. Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2012, at 2:22 PM, "Arthur Burke" <[email protected]> wrote: > N1MM has taken the approach that *they* are not going to be responsible for > you having a paper copy. But they do have a set of instructions available > for you to "print" to a .pdf format so you can have a "local" copy on your > PC or your iPAD. > > I find that works extremely well and it's a lot easier to remain current - > and it was already too much of a PITA to print the manual in a standard, > printed document. > > Personally, I find the manual availability in .pdf format from Elecraft to > be a very workable solution. > > Art - N4PJ > > > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Lu Romero <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A lot of Equipment manufacturers I work with have stopped >> shipping printed manuals. You get a printed "Quick Start" >> or "installation guide" with the product and either a DVD/CD >> ROM with the manual in PDF or a website to download and >> print the latest iteration of the manual in PDF. >> >> Printed manuals are both expensive and hard to keep current. >> There are many benefits to paper manuals, but also many >> benefits to "soft" manuals. There are mutual benefits to >> both the manufacturer and the customer, and yes, detractions >> as well. One video server device that I use has the manual >> included in the product's hard drive as a web page which >> they update remotely and automatically via the internet as >> needed. Anywhere you use the product, the manual is as >> close as the client computer's browser. When (not *IF*, >> *WHEN*!) the server goes down, though, how do you reference >> the manual if you didnt print it or move it to your >> Ipad/Tablet? >> >> Im still not "paperless" in manuals and technical reference >> documents; I like to have a printed version around. Its an >> old habit. But Im a dying breed. More and more, I see IPads >> or Tablets being used for this purpose, a handheld >> "reference library" of sorts. Its quite efficient with text >> search functions... that is, until you need the manual at a >> remote site when the power is out and the battery in the >> device runs down. >> >> The tech in the gear we use today is more and more software >> based. It changes so quickly and so often, usually by the >> time the product ships, the manual is several iterations >> old. Its a sign of the times. I have been doing a lot of >> thinking about this issue at work recently. >> >> So, Im wondering, how upset would us Elecraft customers be >> if paper manuals were not included with the product? When >> purchasing the product, you would have to either download >> the manual from the web and print it if you wanted a printed >> copy or get it on Optical Media and print it from there >> Just wondering what everybody thinks about these scenarios. >> Is it blasphemy? Is it progress? >> >> Lu - W4LT >> K3/P3/K1 >> >> ------------------------ >> >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:51:48 -0400 >> From: Don Wilhelm <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and KPA500 >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Yes, updating of on-line pdf manuals is easy and trivial, >> but what does >> Elecraft do when 100 manuals have been printed and have to >> be updated - >> open them and pencil in the changes? I think not - Errata >> sheets are >> the only practical method. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> On 6/10/2012 10:34 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>> On 6/10/2012 6:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>>> This is a classic example of the results and frustration >> caused by >>>> ignoring the Errata Sheet. >>> Yes, BUT -- with modern desktop publishing, it is >> trivially easy for a >>> decent technical writer to keep a pdf up to date. I have >> several dozen >>> tutorials online as pdf files, and I can edit the source >> file, save it >>> as a pdf, and upload it to my website in an hour. If I >> can do that, >>> Elecraft should be able to do that. It's equally easy for >> that pdf to >>> include a running list of changes and additions as an >> appendix. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[email protected] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
