Jim,

I did a little chatting with Guy K2AV when he was starting to work on 
that project (W0UCE lives only a few miles from me), and I recall that 
changing the height above ground changed the behavior.
So if you do not have the lowest wire 8 feet above the ground, it will 
not be tuned properly.
Maybe Guy will comment, he frequently posts on this reflector.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/28/2012 5:22 PM, Jim Bennett wrote:
> I've got a K3 and a three month old KPA500. Trying to get 5BWAS; 80 meters is 
> my biggest hurdle. I put up an 80 meter Inverted L several months ago - prior 
> to getting the KPA500. The vertical part of the antenna is 40 feet in length. 
> I had been using two radials, about 14 inches above ground - small lot, 
> CC&R's, HOA, etc. The antenna worked fairly well with my K3 and the internal 
> tuner. I had done some pruning of the radials to get it resonant on 3.550. 
> The K3 tuner took care of the rest. Well, along came the KPA500 and as yet, 
> no KAT500. So I started looking at the antenna to see what I could do. I 
> opted to replace the two single radial wires with a K2AV Folded CounterPoise 
> (FCP). Not sure if this was a mistake or not. Everything I've read said that 
> the FCP approach on 80 / 160 meter Inverted L antennas would result in a 
> greatly improved signal. What has happened is that I cannot for the life of 
> me get this thing resonant around 3.520. And yes, I did build the isolation tr
 an
>   sformer, per the instructions.
>
> Here is what is happening and I am certainly perplexed. I'm using an MFJ-259B 
> meter, at the shack end, to take my readings. I get TWO SWR nulls. Yes, two. 
> One is at 3.461 and has R=35, X-0, and SWR of 1.3. The second null is at 
> 3.654, R=0, X=1, SWR=1.0. In an attempt to get the antenna resonant at 3.520 
> or so, I started adjusting the length of the antenna. Adding wire to it makes 
> the two "nulls" go down in frequency, as I would expect. If I instead shorten 
> the antenna wire, the "resonant frequencies" both go up. However, there comes 
> a point with both approaches where the change of frequency stops, but the SWR 
> goes up.
>
> As you can guess, I am NOT an antenna expert. Why do I get two different 
> resonant frequencies, separated by only 200 KHz?
>
> I've spent the better part of two days futzing around with this thing and am 
> about at my wit's end. I don't necessarily want to toss the entire FCP 
> assembly in the trash, and go back to the two radials, but this is not going 
> as I'd hoped! If someone on this list who has a good handle on wire antenna 
> tuning can give me some pointers and/or hints, off the list, I'd certainly 
> appreciate it. :-)
>

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