Jim:
You need to pay attention to your numbers. "R=0, X=1, SWR=1.0" is a short
circuit with a short piece of wire. While it is possible to have multiple
resonances and multiple nulls this not the case here. You have a major
problem. Perhaps something is breaking down or perhaps you have made a
construction error. Recheck everything. Use a simple ohm meter to check for
shorts and continuity. If that doesn't find your problem prove your
transmission line by putting a 50 ohm dummy load at end of your coax
(antenna end) and check with your MFJ259. It should say 50 j0. If it does
inspect  your antenna carefully. Make sure your insulators insulate.
Whatever you do don't hook up the KPA500 until you fix this problem. Let us
know how you come out.
73
Fred, AE6QL  

-----Original Message-----
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:23 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Need Antenna Tuning Help

I've got a K3 and a three month old KPA500. Trying to get 5BWAS; 80 meters
is my biggest hurdle. I put up an 80 meter Inverted L several months ago -
prior to getting the KPA500. The vertical part of the antenna is 40 feet in
length. I had been using two radials, about 14 inches above ground - small
lot, CC&R's, HOA, etc. The antenna worked fairly well with my K3 and the
internal tuner. I had done some pruning of the radials to get it resonant on
3.550. The K3 tuner took care of the rest. Well, along came the KPA500 and
as yet, no KAT500. So I started looking at the antenna to see what I could
do. I opted to replace the two single radial wires with a K2AV Folded
CounterPoise (FCP). Not sure if this was a mistake or not. Everything I've
read said that the FCP approach on 80 / 160 meter Inverted L antennas would
result in a greatly improved signal. What has happened is that I cannot for
the life of me get this thing resonant around 3.520. And yes, I did build
the isolation tran  sformer, per the instructions. 


Here is what is happening and I am certainly perplexed. I'm using an
MFJ-259B meter, at the shack end, to take my readings. I get TWO SWR nulls.
Yes, two. One is at 3.461 and has R=35, X-0, and SWR of 1.3. The second null
is at 3.654, R=0, X=1, SWR=1.0. In an attempt to get the antenna resonant at
3.520 or so, I started adjusting the length of the antenna. Adding wire to
it makes the two "nulls" go down in frequency, as I would expect. If I
instead shorten the antenna wire, the "resonant frequencies" both go up.
However, there comes a point with both approaches where the change of
frequency stops, but the SWR goes up.

As you can guess, I am NOT an antenna expert. Why do I get two different
resonant frequencies, separated by only 200 KHz?

I've spent the better part of two days futzing around with this thing and am
about at my wit's end. I don't necessarily want to toss the entire FCP
assembly in the trash, and go back to the two radials, but this is not going
as I'd hoped! If someone on this list who has a good handle on wire antenna
tuning can give me some pointers and/or hints, off the list, I'd certainly
appreciate it. :-)

Regards, Jim / W6JHB

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