Hi Susan, I love my K3 and it may be worth you trying a little longer to get used too.
And if I were going to step down in quality.... to me the next best rig is the Elecraft K2...not as complicated but a great CW rig. Joe KK5NA ------------------------ On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 12:04 -0700, ussv dharma wrote: > Aloha: > I have had my K3 since last October. I think I have given it a fair trail. > It is just too darned complicated for me. I have never been able to get it > to give the same background noise for cw as it gives for ssb. > > I think I want to get rid of it. > > Can anyone advise me of a rig, same price range, for me to purchase? > > Susan > > If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! > Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA > > > --- On Fri, 8/20/10, Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 8:49 AM > > > > > Are any of you guys driving your K3 with W2IHY or > > other audio rack > > > gear? > > > > Why bother? The K3 already provides all of the > > capability of the > > W2IHY 8 band EQ/noise gate, adds downward expansion in the > > noise > > gate and there is no issue with external hum loops, RF > > pick-up, etc. > > > > > I'm still waiting for my K3 to get back from the > > factory, but I plan > > > on running the full stack of W2IHY gear with a Heil > > GM-5 Mic. > > > > I've used wide range (broadcast style) mics and the Heil > > HC-5 element > > with the K3's internal EQ and find that configuring the K3 > > for a 6 dB > > per octave roll off below 400 Hz (50 Hz: -16dB, 100 Hz: > > -12dB, 200 Hz: > > -6 dB), a -6dB "notch" at 800 Hz and 6 dB per octave rise > > above 1000 Hz > > (1600 Hz: +6dB, 2400 Hz: +10dB, 3200 Hz: +12dB) yields > > extremely good > > audio reports with the "broadcast" mic and a lot of > > "presence" without > > the "restricted" sound on the HC-5. > > > > Coupled with "CMP" at 25, this provides plenty of "punch" > > without > > sounding over processed and "all highs" like the HC-4. > > > > 73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > On 8/20/2010 11:54 AM, Tim Tucker wrote: > > > Are any of you guys driving your K3 with W2IHY or > > other audio rack gear? If > > > so, I'm curious as to the settings you ended up with > > on the rig. I'm still > > > waiting for my K3 to get back from the factory, but I > > plan on running the > > > full stack of W2IHY gear with a Heil GM-5 Mic. I > > imagine I will probably > > > end up with the comp and EQ on the rig turned off, but > > I'd like to hear what > > > others do. > > > > > > Tim > > > AE6LX > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Philippe > > Trottet<[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi James, > > >> I'm using MH2 also for Field day opertions and > > almost same as you, set > > >> MIC=2& COMP=20 TX equalizer has > > been adjust to my loud voice given > > >> preferential to medium high > > audio. Great > > >> 73's > > >> Philippe A65BI > > >> K3#3616 > > >> > > >>>>> <[email protected]> > > 20-08-2010 18:54>>> > > >> Who uses the Elecraft hand mic? I do and mic gain > > has to be set low; i.e. > > >> around 8 or 9 to prevent clipping and flat > > topping as viewed on a monitor > > >> scope. This is with mic sensitivity set to > > low in the menu. I was once > > >> told that the hand mics are a tad hot, but mine > > seems to be excessively so. > > >> > > >> Regardless, my comp is set to 15 or 20 and I get > > excellent audio reports. > > >> > > >> James K2QI > > >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Stephen Prior<[email protected]> > > >> Sender: [email protected] > > >> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:21:00 > > >> To: elecraft<[email protected]> > > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 : SSB modulation > > >> > > >> I use the Heil MD2 microphone which has an > > electret element. I have both > > >> compression and mic gain set to 25, and mic set to > > front panel low with > > >> bias. > > >> > > >> I have far more 'talk power' than I have enjoyed > > with any previous radio. > > >> > > >> 73 Stephen G4SJP > > >> > > >> > > >> On 20/08/2010 04:24, "Joseph Trombino, Jr"<[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>> Hi > > >>>> > > >>>> We are the proud owners of 6 K3/100 used > > at the FY5KE contest station. > > >>>> These radios has been delivered around > > mid-2008 and their serial numbers > > >>>> are in the 012xx range. > > >>>> > > >>>> After using mostly these rigs for SSB > > contesting in FY5KE or in other > > >>>> places, we are still facing a lack of > > "dynamics", "punch", > > >>>> "penetration", "power", whatever you call > > it. In other words, when > > >>>> comparing this rig to our radios we > > previously used (TS-850), with the > > >>>> same microphone (Heil HC-4 element) and > > the same output RF power, the K3 > > >>>> is clearly way behind in term of "average > > power" we can read on the Bird > > >>>> wattmeter wired on its RF output. Even if > > observing the wattmeter needle > > >>>> is not a very scientific measurement (we > > admit it), various comparative > > >>>> reports on the air do confirm our > > feeling. > > >>>> > > >>>> We spent time on various available > > settings (mic gain, compressor level, > > >>>> etc), with no luck, excepted a very > > distorted and awful audio to roughly > > >>>> reach the same level, which is not > > acceptable. > > >>>> > > >>>> After a little Googling, it appears that > > other contesters suffers the > > >>>> same issue (e.g. > > www.bavarian-contest-club.de/projects/K3_english.pdf > > >>>> pages 6 and 10). > > >>>> > > >>>> Some questions : > > >>>> > > >>>> - Do other contesters (or not) here have > > noted the same problem ? > > >>>> - What settings did you modified (or not) > > to achieve a good result ? > > >>>> - Is there any possible HW or SW upgrade > > we aren't aware of, that could > > >>>> help us ? > > >>>> > > >>>> We must confess we are currently preparing > > our next contest season, and > > >>>> we are seriously considering reselling > > these radios and bring others > > >>>> Japanese models if we can't solve this > > problem, despite we really > > >>>> appreciate them in many other aspects > > (size, weight, etc.). > > >>>> > > >>>> 73 > > >>>> > > >>>> For the FY5KE/Win-Test team, > > >>>> > > >>>> Larry - F6FVY > > >>> > > >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > >>> Elecraft mailing list > > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >>> Post: mailto:[email protected] > > >>> > > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > >> Elecraft mailing list > > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > >> Post: mailto:[email protected] > > >> > > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > >> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[email protected] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[email protected] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html

