Damien Sandras wrote:
Le dimanche 01 mars 2009 à 17:53 +0100, Alec Leamas a écrit :
Derek Smithies wrote:
On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:

Derek Smithies wrote:
Hi,

On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Alec Leamas wrote:
I need a whisky.
Coffee is much better. Don't add any impurities though (milk, sugar etc)
I'm was actually using both whisky AND coffe w milk. Sorry, no offense... :-)

After some serious fights w the build system, I've been able to add a simple PTRACE to the SetBuffers method in sound_alsa.cxx. Trimmed output:

13:45:49.348      ALSA    Setting buffers, size: 3840, count: 5
13:45:49.402      ALSA    Device default Opened
13:45:49.438      ALSA    Setting buffers, size: 320, count: 5
It is set in opal in

OpalAudioMediaStream::OpalAudioMediaStream(
 where soundChannelBuffers is set to the supplied parameter value.

This comes out of the pcssendpoint class, which

which ends up coming from: a method of the pcss endpoint which gets the user defined buffer depth...
    soundChannelBuffers = pcss endpoint.GetSoundChannelBufferDepth()


so you know what ?

I think this is a bug from outside of ptlib&opal. The default values for codec sizes in ptlib&opal are for a count of 2 buffers (unix) and 3 buffers(windows).

Derek.

Indeed. I have submitted a temporary patch to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572953. Not tested, but should be better than today. If it not makes other problems visible...Many thanks for your help with his, I wouldn't really have a chance without it.


This patch will break with some hardware, even on Linux.

With the standard 8 kHz codecs, there is not more than 2-3 errors on 1 Mbyte of data using a two periods hw buffer and a 150 ms jitter buffer from Sweden to the echo server. I've added logging code to the alsa driver to show this. I have not been able to get any usable results using the 16 kHz codecs against [email protected] (no sound at all...). If the jitter buffer is decreased to 50 ms there are more errors, but then the sound is so bad anyway that it's not a valid usecase.

Thinking about it, I can't really see why two or three periods should be a problem unless the jitter buffer is to small (or the system overloaded). And it's the user who sets the jitter buffer. I really think the defaut value should be smaller 2 (or 3) on Linux. Question is how to adjust this value if needed. Yet another "hidden" gconf variable? Is it needed, can this be handled by the jitter buffer?

Anyway, this is a way to get rid of 40-60 ms of latency on Linux, more on windows. I think it deserves to be thought of, it is a substantial gain. BUt bot until the release is out :-)

--a

PS: I can now accept calls with the gtk message box. This used to crash.  DS

--a

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