Charles Austin wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:55 AM, nigel barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I appreciate these answers, but this is far away from my needs. I am not >> teaching CS to high school students. I teach mostly primary and middle >> school classes, and we use the computer to do tasks which are useful in >> the mainstream classes. According to UK and International Baccalaureate >> curriculum documents young kids are supposed to be able to use >> databases. Obviously this would be a GUI app, maybe even simpler than >> Access. I don't know what windows schools use, but it would seem there >> must be something, otherwise these curriculum writers wouldn't have got >> these ideas. >> >> > > I wholeheartedly agree. Teaching the very basics of database is far > easier with a GUI - especially when it comes to concepts like primary > keys and joins. I deal with lower and middle school students as well > - CLI databases is not a good way to introduce the concepts. > > >> >> Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> > On 4/14/08, Uwe Geercken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> I would recommend to anyone, who wants to learn a database, to start >> >> on the console. same as for learning html, jave, etc. you can always >> >> switch to a GUI at a later point of time in the process but at the >> >> start it is important to learn the bascis and not have a tool do the >> >> work. >> >> >> > From my experience, learning databases was pretty easy, but I had the > Access 2.0 GUI. Maybe I am a slow or "special" learner, but I cannot > imagine learning about cross table queries without some sort of visual > reference. That being said, I have been strictly MySQL (command line) > for quite some time now. Once you learn the basics, the CLI is far > superior. This is way off topic by now, but you have to learn to walk > before you can run. > > Regards, > Charles > > Try SQL Designer. It runs in your browser and is quite visual (drag and drop etc) and will spit out code for MySQL etc. Very neat.
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