Hello Edwin,

You asked for examples of rejection and subsequent publication.
Here are 3 marine examples from gatekeeper journals
Nature 271:352  rejected by Science
American Naturalist 139:148  rejected by Marine Ecology--Progress Series
Phil. Trans. R. Soc. Lond. B 352: 633    rejected by Ecology

I think your baseline should include a full listing of the history
of a manuscript - each rejection of a manuscript by date, and  final
publication by date.
Otherwise your baseline is biased, isn't it?

Also, if you are doing an experiment, how will you allocate
experimental units?  If you are doing a survey, how will you achieve
a representative sample?

Over a long publication career, marked by my first peer reviewed
publication in 1978, I have experienced many rejections.  My view
is that science is not science until it is communicated.  And that
my role is to get the result published, even if not where I think
it deserves to be published.  That's my view.  Suum cuique.

Yours in the pursuit of evidence based results,
David Schneider

On 2017-05-19 13:41, Edwin Cruz-Rivera wrote:
Dear all,

   I apologize for the cross listing. We are trying to cover as broad
a canvas as possible:

In the past years, journals have increased the responsibilities of
editors-in-chief to the point that they have become gatekeepers of
their publications. The bottom line is that papers get sent out to
peer reviewers only when editors say so, if they deem the article to
be "of broad enough interest" to their readers.

Clearly, there is a spectacular number of problems with this (though
we do not seem to talk about them). For one, systematic bias can be
introduced in a multitude of ways: what terrestrial researchers
consider "hot topics" of "general interest" may not be the same as
what freshwater or marine ones do. I keep glancing at the
plant-herbivore interactions literature seeing how marine papers often
cites terrestrial works, but not the other way around.

After talking to several colleagues, it seems that the trend is "I
(insert editors name)  don't think this is of general interest but it
is really good, so I recommend you submit your manuscript to this
journal of also general interest (open access journal from our
publisher that costs you thousands of dollars to publish in)." This,
frankly, seems like a dishonest practice; if it is good enough for one
general ecology journal it should be for another. Have we exchanged
fashion for quality? We want to know your opinion.

We would like to compile data on the frequency of such cases. Our
hypothesis is that the definition of "general interest" or "worthy of
peer review" in ecology is completely arbitrary and we will be
designing an experiment to test this, but we would like to establish a
baseline by asking for cases in which authors have felt their papers
have been rejected out of bias rather than merit. In order to narrow
the field, it will be important to have articles that were published
in journals after "broader" journals rejected them without peer
review.

Your responses will be kept confidential,

Edwin

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Dr. Edwin Cruz-Rivera
Associate Professor
Department of Biological Sciences
University of the Virgin Islands
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