Apparently the enjoyment is not sufficient for the majority, because here has a been a long discussion going on for several years about the difficulty getting qualified reviewers. Then, over on the sports side, a rapidly increasing number athletes in football are retiring early (at least that was said on KC radio this week).
Having said that, I doubt paying reviewers would be much encouragement for someone who is making over 70K. I did not miss the point, I just think the point is losing relevance in relation to the problem. On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Steve Young <[email protected]> wrote: > You’re missing the point - athletes like to play sports and some > scientists like to review manuscripts. It is the enjoyment that drives > them, not the money. > Steve > > > > > > On 2/17/16, 10:54 AM, "Malcolm McCallum" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >>paying reviewers is in no way related to paying athletes. >>The athletes are largely student. >>Most reviewers are not students. >>However, one could argue that reviewing is part of a scientist's job. >>Yet, its a part that most institutions provide no credit for. >>ITs a really screwed up situation. >> >>On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Steve Young <[email protected]> wrote: >>> And then there is the argument that some just enjoy reviewing papers – >>>pro >>> bono or payment is not something they consider. They like the >>>opportunity to >>> be involved in cutting edge science albeit the very periphery, before >>>it is >>> widely distributed. Interesting how this relates somewhat to the debate >>> about paying college athletes >>> >>>(http://www.newyorker.com/news/sporting-scene/why-ncaa-athletes-shouldnt- >>>be-paid). >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> From: ECOLOG <[email protected]> on behalf of David Duffy >>> <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: David Duffy <[email protected]> >>> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 1:02 PM >>> To: ECOLOG <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] let's go corporate, publishing companies have! >>> >>> >>>http://chronicle.com/article/Want-to-Change-Academic/134546?cid=trend_rig >>>ht_h >>> >>> "So why not try this: If academic work is to be commodified and turned >>>into >>> a source of profit for shareholders and for the 1 percent of the >>>publishing >>> world, then we should give up our archaic notions of unpaid craft labor >>>and >>> insist on professional compensation for our expertise, just as doctors, >>> lawyers, and accountants do." >>> >>> -- >>> David Duffy >>> 戴大偉 (Dài Dàwěi) >>> Pacific Cooperative Studies Unit/Makamakaʻāinana >>> Botany >>> University of Hawaii/Ke Kulanui o Hawaiʻi >>> 3190 Maile Way >>> Honolulu Hawaii 96822 USA >>> 1-808-956-8218 >> >> >> >>-- >>Malcolm L. McCallum, PHD, REP >>Link to online CV and portfolio : >>https://www.visualcv.com/malcolm-mc-callum?access=18A9RYkDGxO >> >> “Nothing is more priceless and worthy of preservation than the rich >>array of animal life with which our country has been blessed. It is a >>many-faceted treasure, of value to scholars, scientists, and nature >>lovers alike, and it forms a vital part of the heritage we all share >>as Americans.” >>-President Richard Nixon upon signing the Endangered Species Act of >>1973 into law. >> >>"Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - >>Allan Nation >> >>1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert >>1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, >> and pollution. >>2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction >> MAY help restore populations. >>2022: Soylent Green is People! >> >>The Seven Blunders of the World (Mohandas Gandhi) >>Wealth w/o work >>Pleasure w/o conscience >>Knowledge w/o character >>Commerce w/o morality >>Science w/o humanity >>Worship w/o sacrifice >>Politics w/o principle >> >>Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any >>attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may >>contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized >>review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not >>the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >>destroy all copies of the original message. > -- Malcolm L. McCallum, PHD, REP Link to online CV and portfolio : https://www.visualcv.com/malcolm-mc-callum?access=18A9RYkDGxO “Nothing is more priceless and worthy of preservation than the rich array of animal life with which our country has been blessed. It is a many-faceted treasure, of value to scholars, scientists, and nature lovers alike, and it forms a vital part of the heritage we all share as Americans.” -President Richard Nixon upon signing the Endangered Species Act of 1973 into law. "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - Allan Nation 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea" W.S. Gilbert 1990's: Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss, and pollution. 2000: Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction MAY help restore populations. 2022: Soylent Green is People! 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