Besides demonstrating your ability to teach, the keys to obtaining a
TT positions are the four ps...
Publish scholarly work
Present scholarly work at conferences
Propose research to funding sources/agencies
Participate in the community, your discipline's organizations, and the
university.

Now, having said that, if you are applying to some schools they will
care about nothing but your teaching prowess, and if you apply at
others they will only care about your grant total.  Few people do all
of those above things and often departments have a few folks who
publish a lot, others who do a lot of community and university service
and others who do a mish mosh of all.  My time in academia has been
the mish mosh, doing a little of all of these things.

60% of the time you cannot tell what a school values most until after
you interview.
40% of the time you can tell just by looking at faculty webpages.

Then, you have the economic situation of the place you apply too that
can play a big role.  I have a friend who does kinetics of proteins
and other complex molecules.  The background needed to do this is very
unique, the intelligence/skills are extraordinary, and the money
required to set up the research astounding.  Despite his incredible
background and performance he seems unable to get a job, why?  Because
setting him up would cost so much $$.  In today's economy, you can
price yourself out of the market.  You need to know what you do, how
much it will cost, and what flexibility you have in your research.  IF
you do interdisciplinary research, you will find that many people
interpret your background as lacking focus.  This is a hard thing to
counter when interviewing or presenting materials to a committee of
researchers who generally lack any training in multidiscplinary
studies.

These are things to consider both in your application packet and in
interviews.  I've found defining the money needed difficult to define
as I've gone through interview processes, maybe someone else can give
you better guidelines there for your application packet.  But
certainly with your teaching background you can provide confidence to
a hiring commmittee that you can do research, teach students, and be a
valuable co-worker.  I think this is what most of us want to be, try
to be, but frankly struggle with accomplishing!  :)

Malcolm


Malcolm


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Brian Bodah <[email protected]> wrote:
> ECOLOGers,
>   I am a graduating Ph.D candidate who had the misfortune of earning my 
> degree through a research assistantship.  I say this because my career goals 
> involve a teaching appointment.  I've been applying for teaching positions 
> and post docs for several months now, but there's not a single one who will 
> consider someone without actual college level teaching experience.
>   Before attending graduate school I taught science in both the Massachusetts 
> and Minnesota state school systems, I have quite a bit of experience teaching 
> students from kindergarten - adult/continuing education level, but I have 
> never taught a college level course as I simply didn't have a teaching 
> assistantship.
>   If even post doc teaching positions will only consider former TAs, how is 
> someone supposed to overcome their lack thereof?  I hold a master's level 
> certificate in environmental education and have taught in 2 different states, 
> yet this means nothing - that was simply wasted, irrelevant time/experience?  
> I don't think my case is extremely rare, there are many students who earn 
> their PhDs through RAs.  I'm a very good teacher, but my PhD was paid for 
> through research.  I've become quite disheartened in the search for a remedy 
> to this quandry.
>   Any help, suggestions, or guidance from the greater ECOLOG community 
> regarding a way to overcome this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Bodah, Ph.D. Candidate
> Department of Biosystems Engineering
> Washington State University



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