I am not sure if it is a good decision for this to be my first post on ecology 
but I feel I have to say something.

Please do not make insensitive assumptions about peoples' life circumstances. 
As a single woman with no children, being single with no children was not 
really a life choice. It is just how things have turned out so far. However, 
being married with children is absolutely a choice.  There are pros and cons to 
all life situations. Being married without children provides a safety net for 
each individual which single people do not have. Life is more expensive and 
less secure as a single person compared to married childless people. Single 
people have more flexibility in moving for a job. The list is endless.

While I don't agree with the tone of Aaron's comments, I relate. Society in 
general is geared towards people pairing up. Seeing all of my married peers go 
through the same experiences but with the support of a spouse made me a bit 
bitter at times, not toward them of course. I perceived it was easier for them, 
but I got comments that suggested I was footloose and fancy free because I was 
single and had no responsibilities. Singles have the same responsibilities as 
childless couples but no one to share them with. Married graduate students may 
have an advantage by finishing sooner or having a higher publication rate 
(http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/cheri/workingPapers/upload/cheri_wp94.pdf). but 
everyone is expected to finish on the same timeline regardless of their life 
situation. Also, graduate stipends are set assuming the student is sharing 
housing costs with someone, so they are expected to have roommates or a spouse. 
Living with a roommate vs a spouse is a very different situation. I understand 
that marriage has different responsibilities too, I am just saying that the 
grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence, it is just a different 
species.   There is no point in tossing insensitive assumptions back and forth 
because no one really knows what other people are dealing with.

That said, I am ecstatic that something is being done to address the fact that 
women bear a disproportionate family burden, due to both biology and societal 
norms. How many women could have 2 children in 5-6 years and finish a PhD? I 
would imagine that would be very difficult, but I have seen fathers do this. 
They are not expected to take as much time off, and it would not be excepted 
for them to either. Lets face it, in general, a woman would have to take more 
time off even if she didn't want to. I hope we can all agree that others 
shouldn't have different consequences than fathers for the choice of having 
chlldren, but they do. Perhaps having more women in the field who make it to 
higher positions in academia is necessary to change the environment and this is 
probably the best way to start.


Cara Joos PhD
University of Missouri
Biological Sciences
105 Tucker Hall
Columbia, MO 65211
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>




On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Alia T 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

So an attempt to correct the institutionalized discrimination against women
in professional positions having children is discrimination against
child-free people? Then I suppose you can extend the argument that being
single with no children is a decision you've made with full knowledge of
its potential negative effects on your career.

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Aaron T. Dossey 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Sounds like institutionalized discrimination against unmarried people
without kids to me.  But with nepotism (spousal hires, etc.) running
rampant in the ivory tower, I don't expect better in academia.

I wonder if I can get some funding to hire a maid or help with various
things as such.  I am not married and have no kids, but society forgets
that people like me still have a LIFE.  Some help with laundry and
cleaning, maybe some errands now and then, would help me a lot to balance
my LIFE and WORK.

I don't like the direction this NSF thing is going at all.



On 7/3/2013 11:01 PM, David Inouye wrote:

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Date: July 2, 2013


BACKGROUND

Instituted in 2012, NSF's Career-Life Balance (CLB) Initiative is an
ambitious, ten-year initiative that will build on the best of
family-friendly practices among individual NSF programs to expand them to
activities NSF-wide. This agency-level approach will help attract, retain,
and advance graduate students, postdoctoral students, and early-career
researchers in STEM fields. This effort is designed to help reduce the rate
at which women depart from the STEM workforce. Further information on the
CLB initiative may be found on the Foundation's website.

The primary emphasis of NSF's CLB initiative in FY 2012 was focused on
opportunities such as dependent-care issues (child birth/adoption and elder
care). These issues initially were addressed through NSF's Faculty Early
Career Development (CAREER) program, where career-life balance
opportunities can help retain a significant fraction of early career STEM
talent. In FY 2013, the Foundation intends to further integrate CLB
opportunities through other programs such as the Graduate Research
Fellowship Program (GRFP) and postdoctoral fellowship programs, as well as
expand opportunities such as dual career-hiring through the Increasing the
Participation and Advancement of Women in Academic Science and Engineering
Careers (ADVANCE) program. Each of these opportunities will be described
and implemented separately.


PURPOSE

The purpose of this DCL is to announce a gender neutral supplemental
funding opportunity for NSF research awardees that support postdoctoral
investigators. NSF recognizes that dependent care responsibilities and
other family considerations pose unique challenges for postdoctoral
researchers.

Principal Investigators (PIs) of research awards are invited to submit
supplemental funding requests to support additional personnel (e.g.,
research technicians or equivalent) to sustain research while the
postdoctoral researcher is on family leave. These requests may include
funding for up to 3 months of salary support, for a maximum of $12,000 in
salary compensation. The fringe benefits and associated indirect costs may
be in addition to the salary payment and therefore, the total supplemental
funding request may exceed $12,000.

Special instructions for use by PIs and Sponsored Projects Offices in
preparation and submission of postdoctoral investigators-Life Balance
Supplemental Funding Requests are included as an attachment (see below) to
this DCL.

Additional questions should be directed to the cognizant NSF program
director identified in the award notice.

Sincerely,

Wanda E. Ward
Office Head
Office of International & Integrative Activities



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