Ecolog:

I find myself mostly in agreement with most of the objectors to my post, and 
this is no exception. In fact, I am overjoyed to discover how wrong I am and 
how exceptional my experiences have been. Apparently the required courses now 
include enough basic biology and botany, for example, that any Ph.D. in, say, 
"conservation biology" will know things like the fundamentals of how plants 
grow and die and terms like "apical meristem" are not entirely foreign to them. 
Certainly the practice of conservation biology will require a general 
understanding of plant-soil water relations and how nutrients figure into the 
large picture of conservation biology, and all such graduates are fully 
prepared in such respects. 

WT


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Todd Doherty 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 9:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Education Cost of Textbooks Re: [ECOLOG-L] What is 
the best book to teach Conservation Biology?



  Ok first, yes, Malcom, there is an online ConsBio book that was posted on 
Ecolog awhile back. I’ll track it down for you.

  And second, since the thread evolved……..

  “In my view, adding “Conservation” to biology or ecology tends to water down 
the subject and bring old stuff into the dialog.”

  I completely disagree that conservation “waters down” biology or ecology as 
philosophies, and further, I feel it adds context to the practice of these 
sciences beyond the realm of basic research and pure science. 

  “Bringing old stuff into the dialog”, well isn’t that how you build your 
fundamentals? Exploring and understanding the progression of a science, 
learning from its history, has only ever given me a richer understanding of 
whatever topic I happen to be studying. The “old stuff” helped me learn what is 
cutting-edge, the future directions of the discipline, and it helped prepare me 
for how to evolve as a professional. 

  You’re correct in saying Conservation is/should be a cutting-edge issue, 
continuously updated, integrating multiple disciplines and philosophies. Most 
importantly, I agree that any approach to conservation should be based in a 
deep understanding of how the biological systems and their constituent 
organisms work and why. 

  Conservation – “the term is vague, often padded with politics”. 
“Sustainability” could fit this bill too, but what issue that affects all of 
society and all of nature wouldn’t fit that bill. Conservation and 
Sustainability are vague (broad, inclusive – are better words) 
philosophies/movements that have evolved into practical sciences of their own 
accord. 

  As developing sciences, it isn’t surprising to see some of the old guard 
belittling the newbies for “lack of rigor” or “weak fundamentals”. I’ve 
experienced brilliant ecologists who really just weren’t that interested in 
Conservation or didn’t much see the point. I’ve also experienced folks with 
alternative backgrounds, maybe not even a bachelor’s degree, who were far more 
capable as land stewards or ecologists than some I’ve experienced who had a 
sparkly PhD from a top program.

  When it comes to doing “meaningful work”, so much more depends on the 
individual person, their motivations, and their past experiences. Clearly, 
“meaningful work” also varies in the eye of the beholder.

  I’m an academically trained ecologist, but professionally I function as an 
“Environmental Scientist” in the non-profit world. Work on both sides of the 
aisle was rigorous, important and rewarding. Really, what changes with 
“Conservation” and “Sustainability” is that the human element is introduced. A 
human context of course complicates its existence as an objective science, but 
in reality even “pure” sciences (biology, ecology) are influenced by human 
perspective. 

  My main point is that it is frustrating to find colleagues still putting down 
others within the same realm of science. After all, the original ecologists and 
evolutionary biologists were scoffed at back when they were new to the scene. 
My aim is to bring us together; our differences are much less than our 
similarities. We’re all trying to understand and protect the natural world. 

  I’m an applied Ecologist (“Environmental Scientist”) – I do public outreach, 
event coordination, non-traditional education, and specialize in IT and web 
development (in addition to my more traditional science-y duties). That doesn’t 
make me any less capable as a scientist; it opens up the venues in which I can 
have an effect. We need people people just as much as we need pure science 
people. When we work together, support each other, it takes us all higher.

  Cheers,

  TD



  P.S. - Props to anyone out there trying to do something new/different, 
interdisciplinary, beyond borders. I’ll see you on the road less traveled. How 
else can you be cutting-edge other than to define your own career and 
professional expression independently of stale notions?



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