Y'all:

Since I grew up deep in the Post-Oak Timber Belt of Texas, I probably have 
everything wrong, as my "knowledge" is in the "folk" category. 

My great-grandfather moved to Texas after the Civil War, and I took out the 
bob-wahr that he had stapled to post-oaks before the turn of the century 
(20th). I had to chop out the wire which by then (ca 1948?) was deeply imbedded 
into the heartwood. 

How did you get the idea that post-oaks were not native to Texas? I presume 
that you mean indigenous or that you mean that they evolved in that 
nutrient-poor sand, but I'd rather that you told me what you mean. 

WT

PS: In Texas, "native" means born there. I wasn't. I was a "prune-picker." 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David L. McNeely" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] definition of "native"


> Gunnar, where in the world would that question come from?  Post oak has been 
> in Texas probably for much of its existence as a species.  So far as it being 
> "preEuropean," if that is required for you to define something as "native," a 
> substantial portion of Texas is covered by a "native" forest of post oak and 
> black jack, and is called The Cross Timbers."  It likely got its name from 
> being made up of Post Oak, which was during Texas colonial days more commonly 
> called Cross Oak by English speaking immigrants to that part of northern 
> Mexico.
> 
> David McNeely
> 
> ---- Gunnar Schade <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> Howdy!
>> 
>> I am trying to figure out whether post oak (Quercus stellata) can rightfully
>> called "native" to Texas (compared to, e.g., a species like water oak,
>> Quercus nigra). So I wonder if there is a good definition of what "native"
>> means out there ...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Gunnar
> 
> --
> David McNeely
> 
> 
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