Hmmm... My father earned enough as a junior faculty member to support a wife 
and three kids. My junior  colleagues certainly  cannot, at least in 
California. 

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On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:49 PM, "Judith S. Weis" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Another element is that now faculty earn a reasonable living wage, while
> several decades ago they didn't.
> 
> 
>> One element in the increase in college costs, not just research, is
>> accountability. Congress has passed laws that had good objectives
>> (protecting human subjects, protecting animals, ensuring occupational
>> safety, reducing campus crime, ensuring no discrimination on campus,
>> ensuring fair value for federal student loans, etc etc.). Laws become
>> rules and regulations which are monitored and enforced by federal agencies
>> that have no real need to restrain themselves, so they add more
>> regulations, the better to enforce the intent of the law.  Universities
>> meanwhile, trying to stay in compliance, add senior administrators and
>> assistants and assistants to assistants to deal with the regulations.
>> These bureaucracies (well any bureaucracy) protect themselves and the best
>> way to be protected is to jump through every hoop the agencies put in
>> place. Because the university might get in trouble, compliance gets handed
>> what is often essentially a blank check.
>> 
>> 
>> Whole industries have developed around animal care, human subjects,
>> college accreditation etc. These classes and consultants  don't tell the
>> universities how to maximize compliance at minimal cost, instead they
>> suggest ever better and more expensive ways to be in compliance, selling
>> something the compliance bureaucrats are more than happy to buy.  Even
>> more senior administrators are brought on board and again, they need more
>> support staff.
>> 
>> 
>> For research, the more the university spends on compliance, the higher the
>> indirect cost it can charge the federal government, thus providing even
>> more money for compliance. Unless the funder is NIH, higher indirect means
>> the amount the researcher actually gets is smaller, so research loses. And
>> so it goes. With federal funds in short supply, the agencies should be
>> taking a look at compliance, but then they have their own compliance
>> empires to support.
>> 
>> 
>> Is the compliance industry the only cause of increased tuition costs? No.
>> As one of the articles mentioned, higher tuition makes a college more
>> attractive (never mind that like hotel room rates the list price is not
>> necessarily what you end up paying). State and federal governments no
>> longer feel education is so important so they have decreased support. This
>> is in stunning contrast to after World War II when the GI Bill jump
>> started American prosperity through essentially free higher education for
>> returning vets. Too many Americans, politicians and administrators now
>> seem to regard universities as factories that produce degrees, learning
>> being incidental. In that case, climbing walls and Jacuzzis make sense,
>> making one factory/college more competitive than another. So does hiring
>> of 'rock star' professors that, like professional athletes, lend their
>> names but not always their teaching skills to the university's "brand",
>> while driving up faculty salaries. 
>> 
>> 
>> More and more people are telling universities to jump and fewer and fewer
>> universities are bothering to ask why before they do. Until faculty and
>> students start asking why, the universities won't so things will continue
>> as they are, or get worse.
>> 
>> 
>> That's the way it is. Happy New Year.
>> 
>> 
>> David Duffy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> David Cameron Duffy Ph.D.
>> Professor/PCSU Unit Leader/CESU Director
>> PCSU/CESU/Department of Botany
>> University of Hawaii Manoa
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Martin Meiss <[email protected]>
>> Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:10 am
>> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] UC-Berkeley and other 'public Iv ies'in fiscal
>> peril
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>>> Hi, Rick,
>>>       I don't think the answer is that
>>> simple.  I went to a small, private,
>>> liberal arts college from 1970 through 1974 and it cost my
>>> father about
>>> $3,000 per year for room, board, and tuition.  Now it would
>>> cost about
>>> $42,000, about a 14-fold increase.  Inflation, which I'm
>>> guessing has been
>>> about three-fold since then, obviously only accounts for a small
>>> part of
>>> that, and since it is a private school, declining government
>>> subsidies are
>>> not the reason.  The professors haven't all become
>>> millionaires.  The
>>> campus hasn't been plated with gold.  The students aren't
>>> getting an
>>> education that is ten times better than what I got.  This
>>> is a general
>>> trend, not just a phenomenon of my alma mater, and I really do
>>> want to know
>>> what the hell is going on.  My father had a bachelor's
>>> degree, and my
>>> annual college costs were about on fifth of his annual
>>> income.  I have a
>>> PhD and the costs for my kids would be well over half of my
>>> annual income.
>>> 
>>> Can someone out there tell my why higher education is becoming
>>> somethingonly for the rich?
>>> 
>>> Martin M. Meiss
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2011/12/28 Rick Lindroth <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>>> The answer is simple and (nearly) universal: states' support
>>> for higher
>>>> education has declined precipitously over recent decades,
>>> especially in
>>>> recent years. In essence, states are transfering the financial
>>> burden of
>>>> higher education from the general public to individuals
>>> (students and
>>>> parents).
>>>> 
>>>> Although tuition increases have been high, they cannot close
>>> the gap;
>>>> hence the fiscal peril that public research institutions now find
>>>> themselves in.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Richard L. Lindroth, Ph.D.
>>>> Professor of Ecology, Associate Dean for Research, and
>>>> Associate Director of the Agricultural Experiment Station
>>>> University of Wisconsin-Madison
>>>> Madison, WI  53706 U.S.A.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
>>> [mailto:ECOLOG-
>>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Cherubini
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:29 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] UC-Berkeley and other 'public Iv
>>> ies'in fiscal
>>>> peril
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The University of California at Berkeley subsists now in
>>>>>> perpetual austerity. Star faculty take mandatory furloughs.
>>>>>> Classes grow perceptibly larger each year. Roofs leak;
>>>>>> e-mail crashes. One employee mows the entire campus.
>>>>>> Wastebaskets are emptied once a week. Some
>>>>>> professors lack telephones.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If all of the above is true, then can someone please
>>>>> explain why for 20+ years the annual increase in the
>>>>> cost of college tuition has far outpaced the consumer
>>>>> price index, heath care, energy costs, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.nas.org/polArticles.cfm?doc_id=1450
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6xq6hv
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul Cherubini
>>>>> El Dorado, Calif.
>>>> 
>> 

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