Hi there.

While also not an expert, I would tend to agree with Wayne, below. Container grown trees are also likely to develop circling roots that can girdle the tree as it matures. This will not occur with a field grown tree. Here are a few papers on the matter of tree response to cultivation practices:

http://www.treelink.org/joa/2001/jan/05_FACTORS_AFFECTING_ESTABLISHMENT_OF_LIVE_OAK_gilman.pdf
http://www.hriresearch.org/docs/publications/JEH/JEH_1990/JEH_1990_8_4/JEH%208-4-220-227.pdf

Planting an acorn (or a cluster of acorns) and then lightly mulching (no more than an inch or two) around the seedlings will in most cases give you a better, healthier tree. It will develop an undisturbed root system at the proper depth, will not have girdling roots, and if planted with material from near the parent will have a good chance of being inoculated with the proper fungi (which may be present at the site already).

In your situation, I would gather a handful of acorns, litter and soil, and take them to the intended planting site in the fall. I'd then bury them a few centimeters deep. After the first year (or the second), I would cut or uproot the weaker saplings. Many oaks can be coppiced (meaning that the root system will produce new stems if well established), so it's advisable not to let them get too large before cutting them.

If you do start the acorns in a container, the containers should be as large as possible, and the resultant trees planted as soon as possible. A healthy root system is extremely important for transplanted trees, as are proper planting practices. An excellent document on good tree planting practices is available here: http://www.ext.colostate.edu/mg/gardennotes/636.html

Hope some of this was helpful!

-matt


On 9/17/2011 4:34 PM, Wayne Tyson wrote:
Thanks to McNeely for his post, and to Anderson for posting a summary of his responses. 
In my email to Anderson (not included in his list), I (no "expert" either) 
mentioned that in my experience, field-planting of acorns worked far better, in terms of 
plant performance, than container-growing (I explained my technique in some detail) 
followed by field planting.

I have observed that the very brittle root initial penetrates the soil rather quickly and 
quite deeply before branching, while branching occurs in containers almost upon contact 
of the root initial with the bottom of the container or the air. This seems to retard the 
rate of root penetration to the capillary fringe of whatever passes for a water 
"table." I doubt that this is as much of a factor in sandy or other loose soils 
(alluvials) than in the firmer (clayey and/or rocky) soils with which I am more familiar.

Am I again barking down the wrong root, so to speak, or not? Anybody have any 
references/links to real research or experience on this topic?

WT

PS: Following up on McNeely's comment about big mast years, when acorns are 
abundant they can be tossed in front of a walker, who then steps on the seed, 
almost perfectly pressing it into the soil surface. The survivorship curve is 
still steep with this method, but it does have the effect of producing 
randomness and feeds rather than deprives local wildlife.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David L. McNeely"<[email protected]>
To:<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] growing oaks from acorns


David, I am no expert on growing oaks from acorns.  However, I have observed 
that most large oaks produce a great acorn crop.  Multitudes of these, in a 
suitable environment, germinate and produce seedlings.  Given that, if I were 
interested in growing oaks from acorns, I would gather large numbers of acorns, 
and attempt to propagate them under a range of conditions in both pots and 
greenhouse flats.  Now, transplantation might be different.

I would also contact native plant nurseries in the areas where I was interested in 
producing oaks.  Most parts of the country have them.  I know that "Sunshine 
Nursery" in Clinton, Oklahoma produces native oaks for transplantation to 
restoration projects, parks, and private properties.  Steve Bierback, the owner mentioned 
to me on one occasion that he gathered litter and soil from under the parent tree when he 
gathered acorns, so that he would propagate the appropriate myccorhyzae  with the 
seedlings.  I have several post oaks and black jacks  that I purchased as saplings from 
Sunshine Nursery on my property, so the owner's methods must work.  These two native 
oaks, though abundant in the wild, have been claimed by some nurserymen to be impossible 
to propagate.

Vines, Robert A., _Trees and Shrubs of the Southwest_, University of Texas Press, Austin, 1960, 
gives propagation directions for hundreds of native woody plants that grow in the southwestern U.S. 
  Perhaps methods he gives for oaks could be adapted to your oaks, especially related ones to those 
he describes.  Be sure to check under "Remarks" in his species descriptions as well as 
"Propagation," since he sometimes includes planting instructions under either heading.

Storage overwinter in cool temperatures, and stratification at cool 
temperatures are both included for various acorns, according to Vines.

Whether one propagates woody plants or not, Vines is a great book to have 
around.

david mcneely

---- David L Anderson<[email protected]>  wrote:
Hello,

I'd like to talk with someone who is expert at growing oaks from acorns.  If
you are that person or know of someone, my contact information is below, as
are my interests and questions.

Thanks,

David

I am interested in growing oaks from acorns collected from the "heritage"
trees of Boise, Idaho.  I refer to heritage trees as those trees of
outstanding character and community value, usually of great age or beauty or
serving as a landmark for sites of interest.  My questions regard how best
to propagate oaks from acorns.

How do I know if an acorn is good or bad?  Because it is green/brown, or
floats/sinks when immersed in water?

Is it better to overwinter acorns in a fridge/freezer in paper/plastic
bags?  Is it better to transplant them directly into potting/native/mixed
soil?  Better to plant in the fall or spring?  In soil that is wet/dry/left
to natural conditions? Should acorns be sprouted first in wet sawdust?

Or other advice you think would be helpful.  Thanks in advance from the
future heritage oaks of Boise.

--
*David L. Anderson**, Ph.D.*
*Lecturer, Department of Biological Sciences*

Boise State University
1910 University Drive
Boise, ID 83725
208-426-3216
[email protected]
--
David McNeely


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