Hello Chris and all:

Several; haven't bothered to count, but most of my experience is in Mediterranean ecosystems, primarily in Southern California, but some in Greece and France (to a much lesser degree).

I may be having a little trouble understanding your point, but to clarify, "colonizing species" means any colonization of a site not previously occupied by a particular species, and it goes on all the time, in little increments or large leaps, depending upon the mechanism of transport and the suitability of the site for a particular species. One can call this "invasion" too, if one likes.

I believe a close reading of my post will reveal that I would agree that different species (ecotypes, even) "behave" differently in different contexts, but beyond this, I'm not sure what you mean about "invasive plant ecology." Such a reading also will reveal that I intentionally used weasel-words, which I thought were an efficient and sufficient way of communicating that I was not "promoting" any particular uniform rule.

I do not disagree that "eradication" can be theoretically useful, and in some subset of the theory actually useful. However, I believe that it is often the case that, unless one is operating on an unlimited budget that money and other resources often can be better allocated, sometimes for the very reason Chris cites, "it is virtually impossible to eradicate some species." I, too, have often used the word "management" to avoid trapping myself with "eradication." I have tried very hard to avoid using bullshit, either figuratively or actually, but that's not always possible. I also found "management" of restoration projects to be very, very difficult to manage, and almost impossible to damnfoolproof. That goes octuple for irrigation and fertilization--in most cases.

By "used" (I believe I did put "used" in quotes) I meant that I was reckless about reintroducing propagules of all species that were present in the area, including some alien colonizers, but in the case mentioned I did introduce propagules of a particular new alien plant for a particular purpose, which I had observed to be a "fast-fader" (non-persistent) in similar situations. That's the way it turned out. The indigenous ecosystem simply was better-adapted through evolution than the "invaders." That is, the invaders dominated once they had time to reproduce and conditions ideal for their germination, growth, and reproduction, but over time, with "patience," the natives edged the aliens out--mostly.

The aliens did provide some benefits for the indigenous ecosystem, though given my preference I would have used indigenous colonizing species (there were some of these). The weedy annuals grew very quickly after the first year (some mysterious allelopathic effect and perhaps a paucity of propagules minimized their populations), dominated the cover the first and second years, began declining the third year, and by the fourth and fifth year were present in insignificant amounts.

That is, in this case (and several other later cases) the alien and indigenous colonizing species did seem to validate some of the points made in the Davis, et al paper.

Davis and others are well aware that the dogmas are out to bite them; they are trying to objectively assess a multi-pronged phenomenon as honestly and briefly as possible. I have yet to see a single biter actually cite text from the paper and resolve the facts, errors, merits, and deficiencies specifically therein. In the absence of something along those lines, I see mostly indignant huffing and straw-armies.

WT


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Traft" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] New paper about "invasive species" debate


Hello Wayne,

What ecosystems have you witnessed "colonization" ecology in? Invasive plant
ecology is different in different ecosystems, though disturbed landscapes,
landscapes highly managed by humans, or those close to human development
generally tend to be popular with most invasive species in most regions.
Also it depends on how well established the invasive plants are. I'll bet
promoting a healthy, native ecosystem and preventing further disturbance may
prevent exotic species from establishing in a particular area. However, if
they are already well established and mature, or have completely taken over,
you may need to employ some eradication (I prefer "management", as it is
virtually impossible to eradicate some species) methods. Also, what do you
mean, by "used?" Did you plant them, or harvest them for a particular use?

~Chris


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