---- malcolm McCallum <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Watching cable news, the closest thing to a scientist you often see is
> Bill Nye.  Nothing against Bill Nye, but he is not a scientist and
> frankly is not an expert....although he frequently plays one on TV!

Well, I don't watch cable news, for whatever that is worth.  Of course, I had 
reference to Carl Sagan, who did do science, though he did a lot more outreach 
to the public through his PBS series, writings, and interviews.  From what 
cable news I have watched, I have judged it to be a way to be misinformed, 
whether in science or otherwise.  Unfortunately, it seems to be very popular.

mcneely

> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:06 PM, David L. McNeely <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I approve of reaching out, but you make an important point.  And remember 
> > that the best known scientist of the late twentieth century so far as the 
> > American public is concerned was denied tenure at Harvard, though his 
> > "billions and billions" of stars became known to everyone.
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > ---- William Silvert <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I think that this discussion has overlooked the fact that there is a lot of
> >> hostility to science and scientists who reach out are likely to get their
> >> knuckles wrapped. Remember Sen. William Proxmire and his Golden Fleece
> >> awards? Politicians and journalists love to pounce on scientists.
> >>
> >> Working on biological control? Reproductive strategies might get by, but 
> >> sex
> >> lives of wasps? No way!
> >>
> >> Bill Silvert
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Alison Lipman" <[email protected]>
> >> To: <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de Abril de 2011 22:56
> >> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Disseminating scientific thought to the general
> >> public: are scientists making science readily accessible?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Many scientists try to make their findings available to the public, but
> >> > they
> >> > largely fail in doing so.  Why?  Because they mostly publish in 
> >> > scientific
> >> > journals, and when they do approach the real public they don't know how 
> >> > to
> >> > leave scientific jargon behind and speak in "normal speak."  They (we)
> >> > don't
> >> > know how to filter what is interesting to the average person, from what 
> >> > is
> >> > only interesting to us.
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
> >
> 
> 
> 
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