Bill, 

I think you hit the nail on the head in that it is a difficult problem
to address not only on the issue of control of numbers (who, what,
where, etc..) but also it's amazingly difficult even addressing the
issue of overpopulation. I think the latter occurs because even when
many ecologists recognize the issue, they hesitate to talk about it
because they themselves wish to have offspring and no one likes to feel
like a hypocrite. 

I think one fundamental that often escapes the discussion is that the
proportion of NPP that humans usurp (which I think I recall reading in
Frontiers last year was currently about 40%) directly reduces the
proportion available to every other species on the planet.  So even if
we could support 9 billion people through technological innovation
(GMO's, etc..), it has to mean much less overall diversity as the
proportion of NPP we use increases. I hadn't even considered the
economics behind population and GHG's.

Just because it seems like an intractable problem doesn't mean we
shouldn't address it.  If it were any other species we certainly would.

-Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Silvert
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Population control

Recently there was a long discussion of whether ecologists are the
problem, and a few posters pointed out that the biggest problem is
overpopulation. 
There was not much discussion of this, as it is a hrad problem to solve,
it is easier to get rid of ecologists. However the following Economist
article is quite intriguing.

Bill Silvert

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