Similarly, and intuitively, a sample with one species has life, but no
diversity.  The SW index is not the tool for this set.
Tom
Cuba


> In the limit as p goes to 0, log(p) goes to
-infinity. The Shannon-Wiener
> terms are equal to p*log(p) and
0*(-infinity) is defined as 0, which goes
> along with intuition,
no species would have to be zero diversity.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maria Van Dyke
> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 5:39 PM
> To:
[email protected]
> Subject: [ECOLOG-L] Shannon-Wiener Div
Index Question - dealing with zero
> species per plot??
>

> Dear ECO loggers,
> I have a question about utility of
the Shannon-Wiener diversity index in
> regards to sampling units
that have no species in them at a given sampling
> time. Normally
this would get a value of zero, however with Shannon-Wiener
> a
> sampling unit that has only one individual of one species would
also earn
> the value of zero when input into the formula
-∑(1*ln1) =
> -∑(1*0) = 0;
>
therefore there becomes an issue of two different species scenarios
having
> the same values (0 for no species individuals and 0 for 1
ind of one
> species).
> For example:
> I am
studying substrate preferences of ground nesting bees in which I
>
created three different substrate treatment types for bees to nest in. 
In
> all, I have 20 plots that have the 3 different treatments
(subplots)
> within
> each plot. I sampled all subplots of
all plots 7 times throughout the bee
> flight season. During some
rounds I would collect no bees from a subplot
> and
>
therefore have no species to calculate diversity from in my data set.
How
> do
> I deal with these subplots that actually had no
(zero) bee species in
> them?
> I would use Simpson
Diversity instead but I am interested in rare species
> so
> I thought it would not be sensitive enough.
> 
> I
know this is somewhat of a strange predicament b/c the data sets that
> Shannon-Wiener is usually applied to normally have at least one
species
> per
> plot at the very least but the nature of
my study forces me to deal with
> these true zero values.
> 
> Has anyone out there had to deal with this before? I am
open to any and
> all
> suggestions or varying approaches.
Is there a better index to use for this
> analysis? I intend to
use the results from diversity to calculate evenness
> as well.
Please enlighten me
> 
> Maria Van Dyke
>
Department of Environmental Sciences
> University of Virginia
>

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