Hi,

This paper answers the question:

Warner, D. A., and R. Shine. 2008. The adaptive significance of
temperature-dependent sex determination in a reptile. Nature 451,
566-568.

Luis J. Villanueva-Rivera
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Doctoral Graduate Student and Researcher
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Department of Forestry and Natural Resources
Purdue University
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Wirt Atmar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thilina asks:
>
>> I have a question on the temperature dependant sex determination of
>> reptiles. What is the evolutionary or ecological advantage of such a
>> phenomena, especially in reptiles when the females are produced under both
>> low and high temperature extremities?
>
> The simple answer is that no one knows.
>
> You could speculate that a species population that moves too far out of its
> temperature preferendum would begin to drop in fecundity. You could also
> speculate that such a population might depend on being "rescued" by female
> parthenogenesis, a process that is being reported in increasingly more 
> reptilian
> species each year, but all of this is just speculation.
>
> What you can say is that temperature-determined sex determination is ancient 
> and
> an odd system to have persisted so long. Mammals are universally
> chromosomally-determined, so their system must have evolved sometime after the
> split of the mammal-like reptiles from the main amniote branch (~325 Ma).
>
> Similarly, birds are also universally chromosomally-determined, but
> gender-reversed, and they too are reptile descended, arising sometime in the
> mid-Mesozoic (~190 Ma) from the theropod ("beast-footed") dinosaurs, strongly
> suggesting that dinosaurs were similarly chromosomally determined.
>
> Crocodiles and their relatives are the only remaining living animals of the
> Crurotarsi, one of the two subclades of the archosaurs; the other clade is the
> Ornithodira (dinosaurs, pterosaurs, and birds). One clade (Ornithodira) is
> chromosomally determined, the other (Crurotarsi) temperature-determined.
>
> Both of these clades lie within the Sauropsida, a sister clade to the
> Therapsida, the "mammal-like reptiles," the group from which true mammals
> descended. This split in clades is believed to have occurred in the
> Carboniferous (~340 Ma), making chromosomal sex determination older in the
> mammal-like reptiles than in the dinosaurs, but making both forms of sex
> determination quite old.
>
> Wirt Atmar
>

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