Hi,

A bit of a late reply since the discussion has already continued but:

On 2021-01-12 18:50, pls.153 wrote:

So, my question is: if you don't add ASDF as a dependency, what error
messages do you get at app startup?

When I do not `(require :sb-bsd-sockets)` I get:

    Condition of type: SIMPLE-ERROR
Package ((SB-BSD-SOCKETS . #<SB-BSD-SOCKETS package>)) referenced in compiled file
      NIL
    but has not been created

and when I leave out `(require :asdf)` I get:

    Condition of type: SIMPLE-ERROR
    The packages
((UIOP/OS . #<UIOP/OS package>) (UIOP/PATHNAME . #<UIOP/PATHNAME package>))
    were referenced in compiled file
      NIL
    but have not been created

I tried your trick of doing a `defpackage` instead and while it worked it did not have a noticeable impact on startup time.

Anyway, for now the startup time is good enough.

Thanks,
Erik

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