https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python/3 is a great resource, both for the tips it
includes directly and the list of further reading at the bottom.
-mt
On 15 January 2013 08:58, <edgar.sol...@web.de> wrote:
> sounds reasonable.. could you please post some link and/or source comment
> these changes extensively so it'd be easier for other devs to reuse, add to
> your changes?
>
> ..ede
>
> On 15.01.2013 14:51, Michael Terry wrote:
> > The distribute package has some support for doing this cleanly. You can
> put the following in your setup.py:
> >
> >
> > extra = {}
> > if sys.version_info >= (3, 0):
> > extra.update(
> > use_2to3=True,
> > use_2to3_fixers=['custom_fixers']
> > )
> >
> >
> > And put custom 2to3 code that the tool didn't fix automatically in a
> module in the toplevel called custom_fixers.
> >
> > I'll start nibbling around the edges of the code, trying to support
> Python 2.4->3.3. One thing I noticed was that _librsyncmodule.c needs some
> fixes to compile with 3.x as well as 2.4, so I'll start there.
> >
> > -mt
> >
> >
> > On 15 January 2013 05:05, <edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de>> wrote:
> >
> > how would you figure this? patching during setup? install different
> file versions? sounds messy.
> >
> > ..ede
> >
> > On 15.01.2013 03:29, Michael Terry wrote:
> > > Hrm. OK. I wonder if we can't offer an option to 2to3 on the fly
> during setup.py if the user wants to install for python3.
> > > -mt
> > >
> > >
> > > On 14 January 2013 12:32, <edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > as we don't really have hurry with that decision i vote for
> keeping an eye out how stable the next 0.6 release works out, and
> reconsidering a move to a python2.6+ duplicity 0.7 again thereafter.
> > >
> > > ..ede
> > >
> > >
> > > On 14.01.2013 15:44, Michael Terry wrote:
> > > > My personal push for Python 3 support is because Ubuntu is
> pushing to be able to ship only Python 3 on the desktop image. (Plus,
> Python 2.7 is the last Python 2.x. We're at the end of that life line.)
> > > >
> > > > In that context, dropping support for Python 2.4 is
> important because it is vastly simpler to write a codebase that works in
> both 2.6 and 3.x than 2.4 and 3.x.
> > > >
> > > > -mt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 14 January 2013 09:43, Michael Terry
> > <m...@mterry.name<mailto:
> m...@mterry.name> <mailto:m...@mterry.name <mailto:m...@mterry.name>>
> <mailto:m...@mterry.name <mailto:m...@mterry.name> <mailto:
> m...@mterry.name <mailto:m...@mterry.name>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My personal push for Python 3 support is because Ubuntu
> is pushing to be able to ship only Python 3 on the desktop image. (Plus,
> Python 2.7 is the last Python 2.x. We're at the end of that life line.)
> > > >
> > > > In that context, dropping support for Python 2.4 is
> important because it is vastly simpler to write a codebase that works in
> both 2.6 and 3.x than 2.4 and 3.x.
> > > >
> > > > -mt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 14 January 2013 05:46, <edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de>> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i'd limit it to data critical fixes. we simply have
> no man power to maintain both series. on the other hand, what exactly is
> pressing us to python3 or even python2.6..
> > > > isn't it merely keeping an eye out not to hack
> something backwards incompatible?
> > > > if so, we could simply announce that we do not
> strive to meet this criteria anymore, but still accept contributions of
> people or hack something if we feel we shouldn't exclude users with very
> old systems.
> > > >
> > > > meaning: announce 0.7 with python2.6 compatibility
> and developing it non dogmatic against it. phasing out 0.6 alltogether.
> > > >
> > > > ..ede
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 13.01.2013 18:29, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
> > > > > I think we have to continue support of the 0.6
> series for a while, open to discussion.
> > > > >
> > > > > As to 0.7, good idea. New features can be added
> here, fixes go to both series.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...Ken
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:54 AM, <
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de> <mailto:
> edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>>>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 13.01.2013 02:25, Michael Terry wrote:
> > > > > > Hello! Yet another thread on the slow march
> to Python 3 support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The last place we left it was that Ubuntu
> was considering throwing some effort behind porting duplicity and
> maintaining such a patch themselves. That didn't happen for manpower
> reasons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I notice that Red Hat just passed (Jan
> 8, 2013) the end of "Production 1" for RHEL 5 [1]. Which is the first
> milestone on the way to RHEL 5 end of life (which won't be fully dead until
> 2020).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe that is the point in which
> duplicity bumped from Python 2.3 to 2.4 (the end of Production 1 for RHEL
> 4), right?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I propose that after 0.6.21 ships, the next
> release be versioned 0.7.0 with a minimum Python of 2.6. And that we don't
> intend to make further 0.6.x releases unless we discover a data corruption
> issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That way, we (I) can start working on
> patches that take use of 'future' imports and such with an eye towards
> eventually one of the 0.7.x releases working with Python 3 (while still
> keeping Python 2.6 compatibility).
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > sounds good to me. but let's wait a bit after
> 0.6.21 and decide considering the criticality of open bugs if we just do
> another 0.6 round or switch to 0.7 already.
> > > > > but generally yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > ..ede
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Mailing list:
> https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > > > Post to :
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>>> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>>>>
> > > > > Unsubscribe :
> https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > > > More help :
> https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team<
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > > Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net<mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>>>
> > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team<
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > > Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>>
> > > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net> <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>>
> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team> <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>
> > > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net <mailto:
> duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net>
> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team <
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eduplicity-team>
> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team
> Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net
> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team
> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>
_______________________________________________
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team
Post to : duplicity-team@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~duplicity-team
More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
