On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 20:09:44 +0300
Roman Kagan <rka...@virtuozzo.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 07:54:11PM +0000, KY Srinivasan wrote:
> > 
> >   
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stephen Hemminger [mailto:step...@networkplumber.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:03 AM
> > > To: Christoph Hellwig <h...@infradead.org>
> > > Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonz...@redhat.com>; Roman Kagan
> > > <rka...@virtuozzo.com>; Radim Krčmář <rkrc...@redhat.com>; KY
> > > Srinivasan <k...@microsoft.com>; Vitaly Kuznetsov
> > > <vkuzn...@redhat.com>; k...@vger.kernel.org; Denis V . Lunev
> > > <d...@openvz.org>; Haiyang Zhang <haiya...@microsoft.com>;
> > > x...@kernel.org; linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org; Ingo Molnar
> > > <mi...@redhat.com>; H. Peter Anvin <h...@zytor.com>;
> > > de...@linuxdriverproject.org; Thomas Gleixner <t...@linutronix.de>
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/15] hyperv: move VMBus connection ids to uapi
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 09:58:36 -0800
> > > Christoph Hellwig <h...@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 09:50:49AM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:  
> > > > > Lastly, there is licensing issues on headers. It would be good to 
> > > > > have any
> > > > > userspace ABI headers licensed with a more liberal license so that 
> > > > > BSD  
> > > and DPDK drivers  
> > > > > could use them directly. Right now each one reinvents.  
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft could easily solves this problem by offering a suitably
> > > > liberally licensed header documenting the full HyperV guest protocol
> > > > that Linux and other projects could use.  
> > > 
> > > The issue is if same header file mixes kernel and userspace API stuff.
> > > 
> > > Once the files are arranged right, I will submit trivial change to 
> > > comments
> > > to indicate the liberal licensing of userspace API headers.  
> > 
> > Let us take this one step at a time. I know for a fact that not all the 
> > guest host
> > protocols on Hyper-V are guaranteed to be stable. Some of the protocols are 
> > part of
> > the published MSFT standards such RNDIS and these obviously are guaranteed 
> > to be
> > stable. For the rest it is less clear. The fact that we need to ensure 
> > compatibility of existing
> > Windows guests tells me that any host side changes will be versioned and 
> > the hosts will always
> > support older guests.
> > 
> > I would like to minimize what we include in the uapi header; especially 
> > when MSFT has made no guarantees
> > with regards how  they may be evolved. I will also work on getting some 
> > clarity on both stability and
> > under what license we would expose the uapi header.  
> 
> Am I correct assuming that QEMU is currently the only user of
> arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/hyperv.h?
> 
> Then I think we're fine withdrawing it from uapi as a whole and letting
> QEMU pull it in through its header-harvesting scripts (as does now
> anyway).  This would lift all licensing and longterm API stability
> expectations.
> 
> Roman.

Thanks, that prevents lots of problems.
That is how I handle iproute2 as well.

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