On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 07:10:11PM +0000, Teres Alexis, Alan Previn wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-09-15 at 18:51 -0400, Vivi, Rodrigo wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 04:00:54PM +0000, Teres Alexis, Alan Previn wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2026-09-15 at 10:34 +0300, Nikula, Jani wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2026, Alan Previn <[email protected]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > alan:snip
> > > > >  int xe_mmio_wait32(struct xe_mmio *mmio, struct xe_reg reg, u32 
> > > > > mask, u32 val, u32 timeout_us,
> > > > > -                u32 *out_val, bool atomic)
> > > > > +                u32 *out_val)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > -     return __xe_mmio_wait32(mmio, reg, mask, val, timeout_us, 
> > > > > out_val, atomic, true);
> > > > > +     u32 read;
> > > > > +     int ret;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +     ret = poll_timeout_us(read = xe_mmio_read32(mmio, reg), (read & 
> > > > > mask) == val,
> > > > > +                           10, timeout_us, false);
> > > > 
> > > > You probably do need to let the callers pass in the wait too. 10 us wait
> > > > with a long timeout is going to be pretty bad.
> > 
> > agreed
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > alan: okay - perhaps i can make every caller pass in a polling-wait thats 
> > > a fraction of their wait time.
> > > (as a starting point since i dont know what's the expected behavior of 
> > > every caller).
> > > so perhaps something like "timeout_us << 4" (i.e. 1/16th) but pass in 10 
> > > us if its anything smaller than that
> > > (i.e. smaller than 16 usec).
> > 
> > I think we might be complicating this too much..
> > 
> > what about something simpler like:
> > 
> > #define XE_MMIO_WAIT_MAX_BACKOFF_US   1000
> > 
> > ...
> > -             wait <<= 1;
> > +             wait = min_t(s64, wait << 1, XE_MMIO_WAIT_MAX_BACKOFF_US);
> > 
> > 
> 
> alan: i dont understand your this comment on the increasing the "wait by x2" 
> in the loop after agreeing with Jani on the earlier statement.

What I agreed with Jani was that a hardcoded 10us poll interval against
a 2s timeout is bad. That was all.

> Some historical context:
> 
>  1. current baseline code it stands to day IS in violation of linux rules for 
> how to use those sleep/delay functions

right, and I believe that this single line change is enough to fix this
violation.

The problem is that we double wait every loop 10, 20, 40, 80 … 20480, 40960 and
never stops doubling. udelay() is only legal up to ~5000us (perhaps 1000?!),
so once the doubling passes that, we're breaking the rule.

Same on the sleeping side: it ends up asking usleep_range() to sleep 1.3 s,
which is not what that function is for.

The one line just stops the doubling at 1000us:

wait = min_t(s64, wait << 1, 1000);

After that, the wait can be 10, 20, 40 … up to 1000, and then it stays at
1000 forever. It can never reach 20480 or 1300000.

So the illegal value never gets passed to udelay() or usleep_range() — ever.

>  2. my initial revs on fixing this was to minimize the changes so its not 
> complicated by simply fixing the code in place.

I believe this simple line alings with your v1, but just simpler.

>  3. Jani said we really should use the proper linux kernel helpers: 
> poll_timeout_us / poll_timeout_us_atomic.
>  4. Those helpers have the "timeout_us" and the "intra-loop-wait-us" period. 
> I hardcoded to 10 usec.
>       - Jani said i should not hardcode and ensure all up-the-stack callers 
> of the xe_mmio_wait32 function passes in the intra-wait-loop
> value. 
>       - Then you (Rodrigo) agreed with his request but go on to propose going 
> back to exponential 2x intra-wait-loop.
>               - but that contradicts Jani's request u agreed to and also that 
> means we implement the intra-wait-loop? (i.e. dont use the
> proper linux helper?)

sorry for not being clear on my previous response. Perhaps we have a cleaner
end code with the poll_timeout_us and poll_timeout_us_atomic indeed.

Then perhaps we have this single fixes patch and do other attempts in get
cleaner loops?

Thanks,
Rodrigo.

> 
>  ...alan
> 
> 
> > Also the Fixes tag is not the right one... the bug was there before...
> > 
> > > 
> > > ...alan
> 

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