On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 01:01:44AM +0530, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> On 12/11/2025 6:56 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 11, 2025 at 05:22:40PM +0530, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> >> On 12/11/2025 4:42 PM, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> >>> On 12/11/2025 6:06 AM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2025 at 02:40:52AM +0530, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> >>>>> On 12/6/2025 2:04 AM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 05, 2025 at 03:59:09PM +0530, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 12/4/2025 7:49 PM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 03:43:33PM +0530, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/26/2025 6:12 AM, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2025 at 03:03:10PM +0100, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/21/25 10:52 PM, Akhil P Oommen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jie Zhang <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Add gpu and rgmu nodes for qcs615 chipset.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jie Zhang <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Akhil P Oommen <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                        gpu_opp_table: opp-table {
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                                compatible = 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "operating-points-v2";
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                                opp-845000000 {
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                                        opp-hz = /bits/ 64 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <845000000>;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                                        required-opps = 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <&rpmhpd_opp_turbo>;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                                        opp-peak-kBps = 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <7050000>;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +                                };
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I see another speed of 895 @ turbo_l1, perhaps that's for 
> >>>>>>>>>>> speedbins
> >>>>>>>>>>> or mobile parts specifically?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> msm-4.14 defines 7 speedbins for SM6150. Akhil, I don't see any of 
> >>>>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The IoT/Auto variants have a different frequency plan compared to 
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> mobile variant. I reviewed the downstream code and this aligns with 
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> except the 290Mhz corner. We can remove that one.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Here we are describing the IoT variant of Talos. So we can ignore 
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> speedbins from the mobile variant until that is supported.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No, we are describing just Talos, which hopefully covers both mobile 
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> non-mobile platforms.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We cannot assume that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Even if we assume that there is no variation in silicon, the firmware
> >>>>>>> (AOP, TZ, HYP etc) is different between mobile and IoT version. So it 
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> wise to use the configuration that is commercialized, especially when 
> >>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> is power related.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> How does it affect the speed bins? I'd really prefer if we:
> >>>>>> - describe OPP tables and speed bins here
> >>>>>> - remove speed bins cell for the Auto / IoT boards
> >>>>>> - make sure that the driver uses the IoT bin if there is no speed bin
> >>>>>>   declared in the GPU.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The frequency plan is different between mobile and IoT. Are you
> >>>>> proposing to describe a union of OPP table from both mobile and IoT?
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, this prompted me to check the sa6155p.dtsi from msm-4.14... And it
> >>>> has speed bins. How comes we don't have bins for the IoT variant?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mobile bins: 0, 177, 187, 156, 136, 105, 73
> >>>> Auto bins:   0, 177,      156, 136, 105, 73
> >>>>
> >>>> Both Mobile and Auto chips used the same NVMEM cell (0x6004, 8 bits
> >>>> starting from bit 21).
> >>>>
> >>>> Mobile freqs:
> >>>> 0:         845M, 745M, 700M,       550M,       435M,       290M
> >>>> 177:       845M, 745M, 700M,       550M,       435M,       290M
> >>>> 187: 895M, 845M, 745M, 700M,       550M,       435M,       290M
> >>>> 156:             745M, 700M,       550M,       435M,       290M
> >>>> 136:                         650M, 550M,       435M,       290M
> >>>> 105:                                     500M, 435M,       290M
> >>>> 73:                                                  350M, 290M
> >>>>
> >>>> Auto freqs:
> >>>> 0:         845M, 745M, 650M, 500M, 435M
> >>>> 177:       845M, 745M, 650M, 500M, 435M
> >>>> 156:             745M, 650M, 500M, 435M
> >>>> 136:                   650M, 500M, 435M
> >>>> 105:                         500M, 435M
> >>>> 73:                                      350M
> >>>>
> >>>> 290M was a part of the freq table, but later it was removed as "not
> >>>> required", so probably it can be brought back, but I'm not sure how to
> >>>> handle 650 MHz vs 700 MHz and 500 MHz vs 550 MHz differences.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm a bit persistent here because I really want to avoid the situation
> >>>> where we define a bin-less OPP table and later we face binned QCS615
> >>>> chips (which is possible since both SM and SA were binned).
> >>>
> >>> Why is that a problem as long as KMD can handle it without breaking
> >>> backward compatibility?
> >>
> >> I replied too soon. I see your point. Can't we keep separate OPP tables
> >> when that happen? That is neat-er than complicating the driver, isn't it?
> > 
> > I have different story in mind. We ship DTB for IQ-615 listing 845 MHz
> > as a max freq without speed bins. Later some of the chips shipped in
> > IQ-615 are characterized as not belonging to bin 0 / not supporting 845
> > MHz. The users end up overclocking those chips, because the DTB doesn't
> > make any difference.
> 
> That is unlikely, because the characterization and other similiar
> activities are completed and finalized before ramp up at foundries.
> Nobody likes to RMA tons of chipsets.
> 
> Anyway, this hypothetical scenarios is a problem even when we use the
> hard fuse.

So, are you promising that while there were several characterization
bins for SM6150 and SA6155P, there is only one bin for QCS615, going up
to the max freq?

> 
> > 
> >>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Also I don't see separate QFPROM memory map definitions for Mobile, IoT
> >>>> and Auto SKUs. If you have access to the QCS615 hardware, what is the
> >>>> value written in that fuse area?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Another wrinkle we need to address is that, so far, we have never had a
> >>>>> dt binding where opp-supp-hw property exist without the speedbin cells.
> >>>>> And that adds a bit of complexity on the driver side because, today, the
> >>>>> KMD relies on the presence of speed bin cells to decide whether to
> >>>>> select bin via opp_supp_hw API or not. Also, we may have to reserve this
> >>>>> combination (opp bins without speedbin cells) to help KMD detect that it
> >>>>> should use socinfo APIs instead of speedbin cells on certain chipsets.\
> >>
> >>> If it is a soft fuse, it could fall into an unused region in qfprom. On
> >>> other IoT chipsets like Lemans, Product teams preferred a soft fuse
> >>> instead of the hard fuse. The downside of the hard fuse that it should
> >>> be blown from factory and not flexible to update from software later in
> >>> the program.
> >>
> >> This response is for your comment above. Adding to that, the value for
> >> the hard fuse is mostly likely to be '0' (unfused), but all internal
> >> parts are always unfused. Maybe it is 'practically' harmless to use the
> >> freq-limiter hard fuse for now, because 845Mhz is the Fmax for '0' on
> >> mobile, Auto and IoT. I am not sure.
> >>
> >> I am trying to play safe here as this is dt. We don't want to configure
> >> the wrong thing now and later struggle to correct it. It is safe to
> >> defer things which we don't know.
> > 
> > What is "soft fuse"? Why do we need an extra entity in addition to the
> > one that was defined for auto / mobile units?
> 
> The hard fuse (freq limiter one) has to be blown at a very early stage
> in the chip manufacturing. Instead of that, a soft fuse region which is
> updated by the firmware during the cold boot is used to provide a hint
> to KMD about the supported GPU fmax. I was told that this provides
> better operational flexibility to the Product team.

Do you have an upstream example by chance?

> 
> -Akhil
> 
> > 
> >>
> >> -Akhil.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> -Akhil.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We already have "machine" as another axis in the GPU catalog. I'd
> >>>> suggest defining separate speed bins for mobile and auto/IoT in the DT
> >>>> (0x1 - 0x20 for mobile, 0x100 - 0x1000 for auto) and then in the driver
> >>>> mapping those by the machine compat.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
With best wishes
Dmitry

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