On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 12:53, Jakub Kicinski <k...@kernel.org> wrote: > > Let me keep digging but other than the netlink stuff the rest doesn't > stand out..
Oh well. I think I'll just have to go back to bisecting this thing. I've tried to do that several times, and it has failed due to being too flaky, but I think I've learnt the signs to look out for better too. For example, the first few times I was just looking for "not able to log in", because I hadn't caught on to the fact that sometimes the failures simply didn't hit something very important. This clearly is timing-sensitive, and it's presumably hardware-dependent too. And it could easily be that some bootup process gets stuck on something entirely unrelated. Some random driver change - sound, pin control, whatever - might then just end up having odd interactions. I don't see any issues on my laptop. And considering how random the behavior problems are, it could have been going on for a while without me ever realizing it (plus I was running a distro kernel for at least a few days without even noticing that I wasn't running my own build any more). I was hoping it was some known problem, because I'm not sure how successful a bisect will be. I guess I had nothing better to do this weekend anyway.... Linus