On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 01:48:29PM +0200, Simona Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 09:59:51PM +0000, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 05:50:10PM -0400, Felix Kuehling wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 2024-09-20 17:23, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 04:26:50PM -0400, Felix Kuehling wrote:
> > > > > On 2024-09-18 11:10, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > > > > > Matthew Brost <matthew.br...@intel.com> writes:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 02:53:31PM +1000, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > > > > > > > Matthew Brost <matthew.br...@intel.com> writes:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I haven't seen the same in the NVIDIA UVM driver (out-of-tree, 
> > > > > > > > I know)
> > > > > > > Still a driver.
> > > > > > Indeed, and I'm happy to answer any questions about our 
> > > > > > implementation.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > but theoretically it seems like it should be possible. However 
> > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > serialize migrations of the same virtual address range to avoid 
> > > > > > > > these
> > > > > > > > kind of issues as they can happen the other way too (ie. 
> > > > > > > > multiple
> > > > > > > > threads trying to migrate to GPU).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So I suspect what happens in UVM is that one thread wins and 
> > > > > > > > installs
> > > > > > > > the migration entry while the others fail to get the driver 
> > > > > > > > migration
> > > > > > > > lock and bail out sufficiently early in the fault path to avoid 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > live-lock.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I had to try hard to show this, doubt an actual user could 
> > > > > > > trigger this.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I wrote a test which kicked 8 threads, each thread did a pthread 
> > > > > > > join,
> > > > > > > and then tried to read the same page. This repeats in loop for 
> > > > > > > like 512
> > > > > > > pages or something. I needed an exclusive lock in migrate_to_ram 
> > > > > > > vfunc
> > > > > > > for it to livelock. Without an exclusive lock I think on average 
> > > > > > > I saw
> > > > > > > about 32k retries (i.e. migrate_to_ram calls on the same page) 
> > > > > > > before a
> > > > > > > thread won this race.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   From reading UVM, pretty sure if you tried hard enough you 
> > > > > > > could trigger
> > > > > > > a livelock given it appears you take excluvise locks in 
> > > > > > > migrate_to_ram.
> > > > > > Yes, I suspect you're correct here and that we just haven't tried 
> > > > > > hard
> > > > > > enough to trigger it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Cc: Philip Yang <philip.y...@amd.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: Felix Kuehling <felix.kuehl...@amd.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: Christian König <christian.koe...@amd.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: Andrew Morton <a...@linux-foundation.org>
> > > > > > > > > Suggessted-by: Simona Vetter <simona.vet...@ffwll.ch>
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Matthew Brost <matthew.br...@intel.com>
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > >    mm/memory.c         | 13 +++++++---
> > > > > > > > >    mm/migrate_device.c | 60 
> > > > > > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > > > > > > >    2 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > > > > > index 3c01d68065be..bbd97d16a96a 100644
> > > > > > > > > --- a/mm/memory.c
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > > > > > @@ -4046,10 +4046,15 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct 
> > > > > > > > > vm_fault *vmf)
> > > > > > > > >                        * Get a page reference while we know 
> > > > > > > > > the page can't be
> > > > > > > > >                        * freed.
> > > > > > > > >                        */
> > > > > > > > > -                     get_page(vmf->page);
> > > > > > > > > -                     pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, vmf->ptl);
> > > > > > > > > -                     ret = 
> > > > > > > > > vmf->page->pgmap->ops->migrate_to_ram(vmf);
> > > > > > > > > -                     put_page(vmf->page);
> > > > > > > > > +                     if (trylock_page(vmf->page)) {
> > > > > > > > > +                             get_page(vmf->page);
> > > > > > > > > +                             pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, 
> > > > > > > > > vmf->ptl);
> > > > > > > > This is all beginning to look a lot like 
> > > > > > > > migrate_vma_collect_pmd(). So
> > > > > > > > rather than do this and then have to pass all this context
> > > > > > > > (ie. fault_page) down to the migrate_vma_* functions could we 
> > > > > > > > instead
> > > > > > > > just do what migrate_vma_collect_pmd() does here? Ie. we 
> > > > > > > > already have
> > > > > > > > the PTL and the page lock so there's no reason we couldn't just 
> > > > > > > > setup
> > > > > > > > the migration entry prior to calling migrate_to_ram().
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Obviously calling migrate_vma_setup() would show the page as not
> > > > > > > > migrating, but drivers could easily just fill in the src_pfn 
> > > > > > > > info after
> > > > > > > > calling migrate_vma_setup().
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > This would eliminate the whole fault_page ugliness.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > This seems like it would work and agree it likely be cleaner. Let 
> > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > play around with this and see what I come up with. Multi-tasking 
> > > > > > > a bit
> > > > > > > so expect a bit of delay here.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks for the input,
> > > > > > > Matt
> > > > > Thanks! Sorry, I'm late catching up after a vacation. Please keep 
> > > > > Philip,
> > > > > Christian and myself in the loop with future patches in this area.
> > > > > 
> > > > Will do. Already have another local patch set which helps drivers dma
> > > > map 2M pages for migrations if SRAM is physically contiguous. Seems
> > > > helpful for performance on Intel hardware. Probably post that soon for
> > > > early feedack.
> > > 
> > > OK.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Longer term I thinking 2M migration entries, 2M device pages, and being
> > > > able to install 2M THP on VRAM -> SRAM could be really helpful. I'm
> > > > finding migrate_vma_* functions take up like 80-90% of the time in the
> > > > CPU / GPU fault handlers on a fault (or prefetch) which doesn't seem
> > > > ideal. Seems like 2M entries for everything would really help here. No
> > > > idea how feasible this is as the core MM stuff gets confusing fast. Any
> > > > input on this idea?
> > > 
> > > I agree with your observations. We found that the migrate_vma_* code was 
> > > the
> > > bottle neck for migration performance as well, and not breaking 2M pages
> > > could reduce that overhead a lot. I don't have any specific ideas. I'm not
> > > familiar with the details of that code myself. Philip has looked at this
> > > (and some old NVidia patches from a few years ago) in the past but never 
> > > had
> > > enough uninterrupted time to make it past prototyping.
> > > 
> > 
> > Cool good to know this isn't some crazy idea. Doubt it happen anytime
> > soon as I need to get a working baseline in before anything then start
> > applying optimizations and help in get other features to get the design
> > complete. But eventually will probably try to look at this. May ping
> > Philip and Nvidia when I have time to dig in here.
> 
> I think the big step will be moving hmm.c and migrate.c apis over from
> struct page to folios. That should also give us some nice benefits on the
> gpu side, since instead of 4k pages to track we could allocate 2m gpu
> pages.
> 

I think was thinking just encode the order in the migration PFN like HMM
does. Really only Nth order entry in the page array needs to be
populated then - HMM populates every entry though which doesn't seem
like that is required. Maybe having a folio API makes more sense?

> Once we have folios at the driver/core mm api level doing all the fancy
> thp stuff should be at least a well-contained problem. But I might be
> dellusionally optimistic here :-)

I think it contained in the sense is the DRM SVM layer just allocates a
THP or large continous device memory and hands it off to migrate layer
and that layer does the right thing. The 'right thing' here I believe is
a decent amount of core MM work though.

Matt

> -Sima
> 
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> > > Regards,
> > >   Felix
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Matt
> > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >    Felix
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > +                             ret = 
> > > > > > > > > vmf->page->pgmap->ops->migrate_to_ram(vmf);
> > > > > > > > > +                             put_page(vmf->page);
> > > > > > > > > +                             unlock_page(vmf->page);
> > > > > > > > > +                     } else {
> > > > > > > > > +                             pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, 
> > > > > > > > > vmf->ptl);
> > > > > > > > > +                     }
> > > > > > > > >               } else if (is_hwpoison_entry(entry)) {
> > > > > > > > >                       ret = VM_FAULT_HWPOISON;
> > > > > > > > >               } else if (is_pte_marker_entry(entry)) {
> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/mm/migrate_device.c b/mm/migrate_device.c
> > > > > > > > > index 6d66dc1c6ffa..049893a5a179 100644
> > > > > > > > > --- a/mm/migrate_device.c
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/mm/migrate_device.c
> > > > > > > > > @@ -60,6 +60,8 @@ static int migrate_vma_collect_pmd(pmd_t 
> > > > > > > > > *pmdp,
> > > > > > > > >                                  struct mm_walk *walk)
> > > > > > > > >    {
> > > > > > > > >       struct migrate_vma *migrate = walk->private;
> > > > > > > > > +     struct folio *fault_folio = migrate->fault_page ?
> > > > > > > > > +             page_folio(migrate->fault_page) : NULL;
> > > > > > > > >       struct vm_area_struct *vma = walk->vma;
> > > > > > > > >       struct mm_struct *mm = vma->vm_mm;
> > > > > > > > >       unsigned long addr = start, unmapped = 0;
> > > > > > > > > @@ -88,11 +90,13 @@ static int migrate_vma_collect_pmd(pmd_t 
> > > > > > > > > *pmdp,
> > > > > > > > >                       folio_get(folio);
> > > > > > > > >                       spin_unlock(ptl);
> > > > > > > > > -                     if (unlikely(!folio_trylock(folio)))
> > > > > > > > > +                     if (unlikely(fault_folio != folio &&
> > > > > > > > > +                                  !folio_trylock(folio)))
> > > > > > > > >                               return 
> > > > > > > > > migrate_vma_collect_skip(start, end,
> > > > > > > > >                                                               
> > > > > > > > > walk);
> > > > > > > > >                       ret = split_folio(folio);
> > > > > > > > > -                     folio_unlock(folio);
> > > > > > > > > +                     if (fault_folio != folio)
> > > > > > > > > +                             folio_unlock(folio);
> > > > > > > > >                       folio_put(folio);
> > > > > > > > >                       if (ret)
> > > > > > > > >                               return 
> > > > > > > > > migrate_vma_collect_skip(start, end,
> > > > > > > > > @@ -192,7 +196,7 @@ static int migrate_vma_collect_pmd(pmd_t 
> > > > > > > > > *pmdp,
> > > > > > > > >                * optimisation to avoid walking the rmap later 
> > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > >                * try_to_migrate().
> > > > > > > > >                */
> > > > > > > > > -             if (folio_trylock(folio)) {
> > > > > > > > > +             if (fault_folio == folio || 
> > > > > > > > > folio_trylock(folio)) {
> > > > > > > > >                       bool anon_exclusive;
> > > > > > > > >                       pte_t swp_pte;
> > > > > > > > > @@ -204,7 +208,8 @@ static int migrate_vma_collect_pmd(pmd_t 
> > > > > > > > > *pmdp,
> > > > > > > > >                               if 
> > > > > > > > > (folio_try_share_anon_rmap_pte(folio, page)) {
> > > > > > > > >                                       set_pte_at(mm, addr, 
> > > > > > > > > ptep, pte);
> > > > > > > > > -                                     folio_unlock(folio);
> > > > > > > > > +                                     if (fault_folio != 
> > > > > > > > > folio)
> > > > > > > > > +                                             
> > > > > > > > > folio_unlock(folio);
> > > > > > > > >                                       folio_put(folio);
> > > > > > > > >                                       mpfn = 0;
> > > > > > > > >                                       goto next;
> > > > > > > > > @@ -363,6 +368,8 @@ static unsigned long 
> > > > > > > > > migrate_device_unmap(unsigned long *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > >                                         unsigned long npages,
> > > > > > > > >                                         struct page 
> > > > > > > > > *fault_page)
> > > > > > > > >    {
> > > > > > > > > +     struct folio *fault_folio = fault_page ?
> > > > > > > > > +             page_folio(fault_page) : NULL;
> > > > > > > > >       unsigned long i, restore = 0;
> > > > > > > > >       bool allow_drain = true;
> > > > > > > > >       unsigned long unmapped = 0;
> > > > > > > > > @@ -427,7 +434,8 @@ static unsigned long 
> > > > > > > > > migrate_device_unmap(unsigned long *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > >               remove_migration_ptes(folio, folio, false);
> > > > > > > > >               src_pfns[i] = 0;
> > > > > > > > > -             folio_unlock(folio);
> > > > > > > > > +             if (fault_folio != folio)
> > > > > > > > > +                     folio_unlock(folio);
> > > > > > > > >               folio_put(folio);
> > > > > > > > >               restore--;
> > > > > > > > >       }
> > > > > > > > > @@ -536,6 +544,8 @@ int migrate_vma_setup(struct migrate_vma 
> > > > > > > > > *args)
> > > > > > > > >               return -EINVAL;
> > > > > > > > >       if (args->fault_page && 
> > > > > > > > > !is_device_private_page(args->fault_page))
> > > > > > > > >               return -EINVAL;
> > > > > > > > > +     if (args->fault_page && !PageLocked(args->fault_page))
> > > > > > > > > +             return -EINVAL;
> > > > > > > > >       memset(args->src, 0, sizeof(*args->src) * nr_pages);
> > > > > > > > >       args->cpages = 0;
> > > > > > > > > @@ -799,19 +809,13 @@ void migrate_vma_pages(struct 
> > > > > > > > > migrate_vma *migrate)
> > > > > > > > >    }
> > > > > > > > >    EXPORT_SYMBOL(migrate_vma_pages);
> > > > > > > > > -/*
> > > > > > > > > - * migrate_device_finalize() - complete page migration
> > > > > > > > > - * @src_pfns: src_pfns returned from migrate_device_range()
> > > > > > > > > - * @dst_pfns: array of pfns allocated by the driver to 
> > > > > > > > > migrate memory to
> > > > > > > > > - * @npages: number of pages in the range
> > > > > > > > > - *
> > > > > > > > > - * Completes migration of the page by removing special 
> > > > > > > > > migration entries.
> > > > > > > > > - * Drivers must ensure copying of page data is complete and 
> > > > > > > > > visible to the CPU
> > > > > > > > > - * before calling this.
> > > > > > > > > - */
> > > > > > > > > -void migrate_device_finalize(unsigned long *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > > -                     unsigned long *dst_pfns, unsigned long 
> > > > > > > > > npages)
> > > > > > > > > +static void __migrate_device_finalize(unsigned long 
> > > > > > > > > *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > > +                                   unsigned long *dst_pfns,
> > > > > > > > > +                                   unsigned long npages,
> > > > > > > > > +                                   struct page *fault_page)
> > > > > > > > >    {
> > > > > > > > > +     struct folio *fault_folio = fault_page ?
> > > > > > > > > +             page_folio(fault_page) : NULL;
> > > > > > > > >       unsigned long i;
> > > > > > > > >       for (i = 0; i < npages; i++) {
> > > > > > > > > @@ -838,7 +842,8 @@ void migrate_device_finalize(unsigned 
> > > > > > > > > long *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > >               src = page_folio(page);
> > > > > > > > >               dst = page_folio(newpage);
> > > > > > > > >               remove_migration_ptes(src, dst, false);
> > > > > > > > > -             folio_unlock(src);
> > > > > > > > > +             if (fault_folio != src)
> > > > > > > > > +                     folio_unlock(src);
> > > > > > > > >               if (is_zone_device_page(page))
> > > > > > > > >                       put_page(page);
> > > > > > > > > @@ -854,6 +859,22 @@ void migrate_device_finalize(unsigned 
> > > > > > > > > long *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > >               }
> > > > > > > > >       }
> > > > > > > > >    }
> > > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > > +/*
> > > > > > > > > + * migrate_device_finalize() - complete page migration
> > > > > > > > > + * @src_pfns: src_pfns returned from migrate_device_range()
> > > > > > > > > + * @dst_pfns: array of pfns allocated by the driver to 
> > > > > > > > > migrate memory to
> > > > > > > > > + * @npages: number of pages in the range
> > > > > > > > > + *
> > > > > > > > > + * Completes migration of the page by removing special 
> > > > > > > > > migration entries.
> > > > > > > > > + * Drivers must ensure copying of page data is complete and 
> > > > > > > > > visible to the CPU
> > > > > > > > > + * before calling this.
> > > > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > > > +void migrate_device_finalize(unsigned long *src_pfns,
> > > > > > > > > +                     unsigned long *dst_pfns, unsigned long 
> > > > > > > > > npages)
> > > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > > +     return __migrate_device_finalize(src_pfns, dst_pfns, 
> > > > > > > > > npages, NULL);
> > > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > > >    EXPORT_SYMBOL(migrate_device_finalize);
> > > > > > > > >    /**
> > > > > > > > > @@ -869,7 +890,8 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(migrate_device_finalize);
> > > > > > > > >     */
> > > > > > > > >    void migrate_vma_finalize(struct migrate_vma *migrate)
> > > > > > > > >    {
> > > > > > > > > -     migrate_device_finalize(migrate->src, migrate->dst, 
> > > > > > > > > migrate->npages);
> > > > > > > > > +     __migrate_device_finalize(migrate->src, migrate->dst, 
> > > > > > > > > migrate->npages,
> > > > > > > > > +                               migrate->fault_page);
> > > > > > > > >    }
> > > > > > > > >    EXPORT_SYMBOL(migrate_vma_finalize);
> 
> -- 
> Simona Vetter
> Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> http://blog.ffwll.ch

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