Am 07.08.24 um 22:33 schrieb Bas Nieuwenhuizen:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 10:25 PM Faith Ekstrand <fa...@gfxstrand.net> wrote:

    On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 2:23 PM Joshua Ashton <jos...@froggi.es> wrote:

        I was thinking about this more recently. I was initially
        considering "maybe this should be a per-BO import," but I
        couldn't think of anything in the GL model that would actually
        benefit given its not "true" bindless and there's no
        update-after-bind there.


    That's also an option and it's the way it works on i915. However,
    then you have to pass lists of things to the kernel and that's
    kinda gross. If we need it, we can do that. Otherwise, I think a
    more global thing is fine.  I think Bas is currently investigating
    a per-submit approach which is a tad different from either but
    should also work okay.


Yeah, I'm working on a per-submit thing (also using BOOKKEEP fences instead of using the EXPLICIT wait mode to ensure we also don't add implicit fences).

Yeah agree. Your implementation with the per submission flag and using BOOKKEEP actually sounds like the right thing to do to me as well.

We need to keep in mind that synchronization goes in both ways, e.g. explicit->implicit as well as implicit->explicit.

I would rather like to keep the implicit->explicit handling (which this patch here completely disables) and only allow the explicit->implicit handling (which by using BOOKKEEP fences).

This way it is possible that we still over synchronize for example for a double buffered BO is re-used by an explicit client and implicit display server, but that's probably not something we should optimize in the first place.

Regards,
Christian.


We do have a per-BO list on submission already, so we could add things there, it is just very annoying to implement as currently at the point we do fence wait/signal we lost the association with the BO list. Given that I don't see an use case anytime soon (there are some theoreticals like radeonsi might start doing READ usage instead of RW usage with extra tracking) I feel it isn't worth that added implementation complexity


        Worth others more familiar with GL asking that question to
        themselves also. I am definitely not totally up on what's
        possible there.

        Overall, I think I am OK with this approach, even though I
        think mixing implicit and explicit sync is gross, and I want
        the pain that is implicit sync to just go away forever. :-)


    So say we all...

    ~Faith

        - Joshie 🐸✨


        On August 7, 2024 4:39:32 PM GMT+01:00, Faith Ekstrand
        <fa...@gfxstrand.net> wrote:
        >Previously, AMDGPU_GEM_CREATE_EXPLICIT_SYNC was used to
        disable implicit
        >synchronization on BOs when explicit synchronization can be
        used.  The
        >problem is that this flag is per-BO and affects all amdgpu
        users in the
        >system, not just the usermode drver which sets it.  This can
        lead to
        >some unintended consequences for userspace if not used carefully.
        >
        >Since the introduction of DMA_BUF_IOCTL_EXPORT_SYNC_FILE and
        >DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE, many userspace window system
        components
        >have grown the ability to convert between the Vulkan explicit
        sync model
        >and the legacy implicit sync model used by X11 and Wayland in
        the past.
        >This allows both old and new components to exist
        simultaneously and talk
        >to each other.  In particular, XWayland is able to convert
        between the
        >two to let Vulkan apps work seamlessly with older X11
        compositors that
        >aren't aware of explicit synchronizaiton.  This is rapidly
        becoming the
        >backbone of synchronization in the Linux window system space.
        >
        >Unfortunately, AMDGPU_GEM_CREATE_EXPLICIT_SYNC breaks this
        because it
        >disables all implicit synchronization on the given BO,
        regardless of
        >which userspace driver is rendering with it and regardless of the
        >assumptions made by the client application.  In particular,
        this is
        >causing issues with RADV and radeonsi.  RADV sets the flag to
        disable
        >implicit sync on window system buffers so that it can safely
        have them
        >resident at all times without causing internal
        over-synchronization.
        >The BO is then handed off to a compositor which composites using
        >radeonsi.  If the compositor uses the
        EGL_ANDROID_native_fence_sync
        >extension to pass explicit sync files through to radeonsi, then
        >everything is fine.  However, if that buffer ever gets handed
        to an
        >instance of radeonsi with any assumption of implicit
        synchronization,
        >radeonsi won't be able sync on the BO because RADV disabled
        implict sync
        >on that BO system-wide.  It doesn't matter whether some
        window system
        >component used DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE to set the
        appropriate
        >fence on the BO, amdgpu will ignore it.
        >
        >This new flag disables implicit sync on the context rather
        than the BO.
        >This way RADV can disable implicit sync (which is what RADV
        has always
        >wanted) without affecting other components in the system.  If
        RADV (or
        >some other driver) wants implicit sync on some BO, it can use
        >DMA_BUF_IOCTL_EXPORT_SYNC_FILE and
        DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT_SYNC_FILE to
        >manually synchronize with other implicit-sync components. 
        This is the
        >approach we've taken with NVK/nouveau, ANV/xe, and similar to the
        >approach taken by ANV/i915 and it works well for those drivers.
        >
        >Ideally, I would like to see something like this back-ported
        to at least
        >the kernel where DMA_BUF_IOCTL_IMPORT/EXPORT_SYNC_FILE were
        introduced
        >so that we don't have to wait another year for the fix to
        reach users.
        >However, I understand that back-porting UAPI is problematic
        and I'll
        >leave that decision up to the amdgpu maintainers. Michel
        suggested that
        >a new CTX_OP would make more sense if we want to back-port it
        but the
        >create flag made more sense to me from an API design PoV.
        >
        >Signed-off-by: Faith Ekstrand <faith.ekstr...@collabora.com>
        >Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deuc...@amd.com>
        >Cc: Christian König <christian.koe...@amd.com>
        >Cc: David Airlie <airl...@gmail.com>
        >Cc: Michel Dänzer <mdaen...@redhat.com>
        >Cc: Bas Nieuwenhuizen <b...@basnieuwenhuizen.nl>
        >---
        > drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_cs.c  |  3 ++-
        > drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.c | 12 ++++++++----
        > drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.h |  7 +++++++
        > include/uapi/drm/amdgpu_drm.h           | 12 +++++++++++-
        > 4 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
        >
        >diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_cs.c
        b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_cs.c
        >index ec888fc6ead8..8410b4426541 100644
        >--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_cs.c
        >+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_cs.c
        >@@ -1196,7 +1196,8 @@ static int amdgpu_cs_sync_rings(struct
        amdgpu_cs_parser *p)
        >               struct dma_resv *resv = bo->tbo.base.resv;
        >               enum amdgpu_sync_mode sync_mode;
        >
        >-              sync_mode = amdgpu_bo_explicit_sync(bo) ?
        >+              sync_mode = (amdgpu_ctx_explicit_sync(p->ctx) ||
        >+  amdgpu_bo_explicit_sync(bo)) ?
        >                       AMDGPU_SYNC_EXPLICIT :
        AMDGPU_SYNC_NE_OWNER;
        >               r = amdgpu_sync_resv(p->adev, &p->sync, resv,
        sync_mode,
        > &fpriv->vm);
        >diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.c
        b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.c
        >index 5cb33ac99f70..a304740ccedf 100644
        >--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.c
        >+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.c
        >@@ -318,7 +318,8 @@ static int
        amdgpu_ctx_get_stable_pstate(struct amdgpu_ctx *ctx,
        > }
        >
        > static int amdgpu_ctx_init(struct amdgpu_ctx_mgr *mgr,
        int32_t priority,
        >-                         struct drm_file *filp, struct
        amdgpu_ctx *ctx)
        >+                         uint32_t flags, struct drm_file *filp,
        >+                         struct amdgpu_ctx *ctx)
        > {
        >       struct amdgpu_fpriv *fpriv = filp->driver_priv;
        >       u32 current_stable_pstate;
        >@@ -334,6 +335,7 @@ static int amdgpu_ctx_init(struct
        amdgpu_ctx_mgr *mgr, int32_t priority,
        >       ctx->mgr = mgr;
        >       spin_lock_init(&ctx->ring_lock);
        >
        >+      ctx->flags = flags;
        >       ctx->reset_counter =
        atomic_read(&mgr->adev->gpu_reset_counter);
        >       ctx->reset_counter_query = ctx->reset_counter;
        >       ctx->generation = amdgpu_vm_generation(mgr->adev,
        &fpriv->vm);
        >@@ -474,6 +476,7 @@ static int amdgpu_ctx_alloc(struct
        amdgpu_device *adev,
        >                           struct amdgpu_fpriv *fpriv,
        >                           struct drm_file *filp,
        >                           int32_t priority,
        >+                          uint32_t flags,
        >                           uint32_t *id)
        > {
        >       struct amdgpu_ctx_mgr *mgr = &fpriv->ctx_mgr;
        >@@ -493,7 +496,7 @@ static int amdgpu_ctx_alloc(struct
        amdgpu_device *adev,
        >       }
        >
        >       *id = (uint32_t)r;
        >-      r = amdgpu_ctx_init(mgr, priority, filp, ctx);
        >+      r = amdgpu_ctx_init(mgr, priority, flags, filp, ctx);
        >       if (r) {
        >  idr_remove(&mgr->ctx_handles, *id);
        >               *id = 0;
        >@@ -666,7 +669,7 @@ int amdgpu_ctx_ioctl(struct drm_device
        *dev, void *data,
        >                    struct drm_file *filp)
        > {
        >       int r;
        >-      uint32_t id, stable_pstate;
        >+      uint32_t id, stable_pstate, flags;
        >       int32_t priority;
        >
        >       union drm_amdgpu_ctx *args = data;
        >@@ -675,6 +678,7 @@ int amdgpu_ctx_ioctl(struct drm_device
        *dev, void *data,
        >
        >       id = args->in.ctx_id;
        >       priority = args->in.priority;
        >+      flags = args->in.flags;
        >
        >       /* For backwards compatibility, we need to accept
        ioctls with garbage
        >        * in the priority field. Garbage values in the
        priority field, result
        >@@ -685,7 +689,7 @@ int amdgpu_ctx_ioctl(struct drm_device
        *dev, void *data,
        >
        >       switch (args->in.op) {
        >       case AMDGPU_CTX_OP_ALLOC_CTX:
        >-              r = amdgpu_ctx_alloc(adev, fpriv, filp,
        priority, &id);
        >+              r = amdgpu_ctx_alloc(adev, fpriv, filp,
        priority, flags, &id);
        >               args->out.alloc.ctx_id = id;
        >               break;
        >       case AMDGPU_CTX_OP_FREE_CTX:
        >diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.h
        b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.h
        >index 85376baaa92f..9431c8d2ea59 100644
        >--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.h
        >+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_ctx.h
        >@@ -45,6 +45,7 @@ struct amdgpu_ctx_entity {
        > struct amdgpu_ctx {
        >       struct kref                     refcount;
        >       struct amdgpu_ctx_mgr           *mgr;
        >+      uint32_t                        flags;
        >       unsigned reset_counter;
        >       unsigned reset_counter_query;
        >       uint64_t                        generation;
        >@@ -84,6 +85,12 @@ struct dma_fence
        *amdgpu_ctx_get_fence(struct amdgpu_ctx *ctx,
        > bool amdgpu_ctx_priority_is_valid(int32_t ctx_prio);
        > void amdgpu_ctx_priority_override(struct amdgpu_ctx *ctx,
        int32_t ctx_prio);
        >
        >+static inline bool
        >+amdgpu_ctx_explicit_sync(struct amdgpu_ctx *ctx)
        >+{
        >+      return ctx->flags & AMDGPU_CTX_ALLOC_FLAGS_EXPLICIT_SYNC;
        >+}
        >+
        > int amdgpu_ctx_ioctl(struct drm_device *dev, void *data,
        >                    struct drm_file *filp);
        >
        >diff --git a/include/uapi/drm/amdgpu_drm.h
        b/include/uapi/drm/amdgpu_drm.h
        >index 96e32dafd4f0..e9d87a6e3d86 100644
        >--- a/include/uapi/drm/amdgpu_drm.h
        >+++ b/include/uapi/drm/amdgpu_drm.h
        >@@ -125,7 +125,14 @@ extern "C" {
        > #define AMDGPU_GEM_CREATE_VRAM_CONTIGUOUS     (1 << 5)
        > /* Flag that BO is always valid in this VM */
        > #define AMDGPU_GEM_CREATE_VM_ALWAYS_VALID     (1 << 6)
        >-/* Flag that BO sharing will be explicitly synchronized */
        >+/* Flag that BO sharing will be explicitly synchronized
        >+ *
        >+ * This flag should not be used unless the client can
        guarantee that no
        >+ * other driver which ever touches this BO will ever want to
        use implicit
        >+ * synchronization as it disables implicit sync on this BO
        system-wide.
        >+ * Instead, drivers which use an explicit synchronization
        model should
        >+ * prefer AMDGPU_CTX_ALLOC_FLAGS_EXPLICIT_SYNC.
        >+ */
        > #define AMDGPU_GEM_CREATE_EXPLICIT_SYNC      (1 << 7)
        > /* Flag that indicates allocating MQD gart on GFX9, where
        the mtype
        >  * for the second page onward should be set to NC. It should
        never
        >@@ -240,6 +247,9 @@ union drm_amdgpu_bo_list {
        > #define AMDGPU_CTX_OP_GET_STABLE_PSTATE       5
        > #define AMDGPU_CTX_OP_SET_STABLE_PSTATE       6
        >
        >+/* indicate that all synchronization will be explicit */
        >+#define AMDGPU_CTX_ALLOC_FLAGS_EXPLICIT_SYNC (1<<0)
        >+
        > /* GPU reset status */
        > #define AMDGPU_CTX_NO_RESET           0
        > /* this the context caused it */

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