On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 07:42:30PM +0000, Wentland, Harry wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2019-01-22 2:19 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 8:00 PM Wentland, Harry <harry.wentl...@amd.com> 
> > wrote:
> >> On 2019-01-16 11:39 a.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >>> Compared to the RFC[1] no changes to the patch itself, but igt moved
> >>> forward a lot:
> >>>
> >>> - gitlab CI builds with: reduced configs/libraries, arm cross build
> >>>   and a sysroot build (should address all the build/cross platform
> >>>   concerns raised in the RFC discussions).
> >>>
> >>> - tests reorganized into subdirectories so that the i915-gem tests
> >>>   don't clog the main/shared tests directory anymore
> >>>
> >>> - quite a few more non-intel people contributing/reviewing/committing
> >>>   igt tests patches.
> >>>
> >>> I think this addresses all the concerns raised in the RFC discussions,
> >>> and assuming there's enough Acks and no new issues that pop up, we can
> >>> go ahead with this.
> >>>
> >>> 1: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10648851/
> >>> Cc: Petri Latvala <petri.latv...@intel.com>
> >>> Cc: Arkadiusz Hiler <arkadiusz.hi...@intel.com>
> >>> Cc: Liviu Dudau <liviu.du...@arm.com>
> >>> Cc: Sean Paul <s...@poorly.run>
> >>> Cc: Eric Anholt <e...@anholt.net>
> >>> Cc: Alex Deucher <alexander.deuc...@amd.com>
> >>> Cc: Dave Airlie <airl...@redhat.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vet...@intel.com>
> >>
> >> I'm all for anything resembling TDD and standardizing on one test 
> >> framework. IGT works quite well for us for testing display stuff. We still 
> >> have a way to go but have been trying to adopt this requirement lately 
> >> anyways for the DC driver. Can't really comment on anything beyond 
> >> display, though, for AMD.
> >>
> >> No matter how much I want this to be mandatory, seeing the discussions 
> >> with ARM and the comment about lack of CRC on Nouveau makes me think that 
> >> we might not be quite ready to go there. Implementing DWB is non-trivial. 
> >> VKMS knows how to compute a CRC from a framebuffer, but that's the trivial 
> >> part. Setting up the HW and SW to do DWB is the hard part.
> > 
> > We also discussed a bit writeback implementations on irc, and it looks
> > like you can't really use writeback to accurately test that your
> > compositing engine is programmed correctly, since on at least vc4,
> > malidp and msm (not yet merged upstream) the writeback engine can't be
> > shared with any other outputs, often it even needs a
> > dedicated/special-purpose CRTC (at least vc4 from what I can tell).
> > That means if you botch your programming and e.g. cause an underrun
> > scanning out continous-update outputs, then the writeback won't show
> > that to you, since it's composited separately. I guess we could teach
> > igt to run these tests on the special crtc->writeback pipeline only,
> > but essentially that's a new testcase, and not really testing the
> > actual display: It tests writeback, not hdmi/dp/panels/whatever real
> > outputs you have.
> > 
> > I'd say we'll shrug these cases off as "can't be reasonable tested,
> > won't have an igt". First driver team with hw that can be validated
> > gets to fill the gaps :-) In practice still going to be a lot better
> > than no tests at all, just exercising the feature will be useful, and
> > will make it a lot easier for the next team to add the crc based tests
> > on top.
> > 
> 
> I think that's reasonable. After all, we want to start somewhere.
> 
> Would it make sense to append something like ", if such a test can be 
> reasonably made using IGT for the target HW." to make it clear to 
> contributors that in cases like the one discussed this is at the reviewers 
> discretion?
> 
> With that change (or anything else that clarifies your intentions as 
> described above) I'd be happy to give my AB.

Me too

Sean

> 
> Harry
> 
> > -Daniel
> > --
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch
> > 

-- 
Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
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