On 07/31/2018 07:04 PM, Andrey Ryabinin wrote:
>> Somewhat offtopic, but I can't understand how SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
>> slabs can be useful without ctors or at least memset(0). Objects in
>> such slabs need to be type-stable, but I can't understand how it's
>> possible to establish type stability without a ctor... Are these bugs?
> 
> Yeah, I puzzled by this too. However, I think it's hard but possible to make 
> it work, at least in theory.
> There must be an initializer, which consists of two parts:
> a) initilize objects fields
> b) expose object to the world (add it to list or something like that)
> 
> (a) part must somehow to be ok to race with another cpu which might already 
> use the object.
> (b) part must must use e.g. barriers to make sure that racy users will see 
> previously inilized fields.
> Racy users must have parring barrier of course.
> 
> But it sound fishy, and very easy to fuck up. I won't be surprised if every 
> single one SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU user
> without ->ctor is bogus. It certainly would be better to convert those to use 
> ->ctor.
> 
> Such caches seems used by networking subsystem in proto_register():
> 
>               prot->slab = kmem_cache_create_usercopy(prot->name,
>                                       prot->obj_size, 0,
>                                       SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN | SLAB_ACCOUNT |
>                                       prot->slab_flags,
>                                       prot->useroffset, prot->usersize,
>                                       NULL);
> 
> And certain protocols specify SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU in ->slab_flags, such as:
> llc_proto, smc_proto, smc_proto6, tcp_prot, tcpv6_prot, dccp_v6_prot, 
> dccp_v4_prot.
> 
> 
> Also nf_conntrack_cachep, kernfs_node_cache, jbd2_journal_head_cache and 
> i915_request cache.
> 


[+CC maintainer of the relevant code.]

Guys, it seems that we have a lot of code using SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU cache 
without constructor.
I think it's nearly impossible to use that combination without having bugs.
It's either you don't really need the SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU, or you need to have 
a constructor in kmem_cache.

Could you guys, please, verify your code if it's really need SLAB_TYPSAFE or 
constructor?

E.g. the netlink code look extremely suspicious:

        /*
         * Do not use kmem_cache_zalloc(), as this cache uses
         * SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU.
         */
        ct = kmem_cache_alloc(nf_conntrack_cachep, gfp);
        if (ct == NULL)
                goto out;

        spin_lock_init(&ct->lock);

If nf_conntrack_cachep objects really used in rcu typesafe manner, than 'ct' 
returned by kmem_cache_alloc might still be
in use by another cpu. So we just reinitialize spin_lock used by someone else?

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