On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 05:04:22PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2018 15:58:51 +0200,
> Alex Deucher wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 6:16 AM, Qu, Jim <jim...@amd.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Lukas,
> > >
> > > Thanks to your explanation, and see comments in line.
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you need to runtime resume the HDA controller even if user space isn't
> > > streaming audio?  Why, and in which situation exactly?
> > >
> > > Jim: OEM system uses pactl to queiry audio card and audio output sink, 
> > > since the audio has power down by runtime pm, so the audio card and 
> > > output sink are all unavailable. they could not select the available HDMI 
> > > audio for audio playing.
> > >
> > > You're saying above that the HDA controller isn't runtime resumed on
> > > hotplug of a display.  Is that necessary to retrieve ELD or something?
> > > I'm not sure if there's code in the HDA driver to acquire a runtime PM
> > > ref on HPD, but maybe it's necessary.  Or maybe the code is there but
> > > somehow no HPD interrupt is received by the HDA driver?
> > >
> > > Jim: So far, I do not find any code about audio response HPD in kernel. 
> > > the HPD interrupt will sent to user mode via uevent, not sure whether 
> > > audio user mode driver can receive the event or not.
> > 
> > On the gfx side at least, we can get a hotplug event via ACPI
> > (depending on the OEM design) if displays are attached/detached while
> > the dGPU is powered down.  I suppose the gfx driver could call into
> > the audio driver during one of those events.  On the gfx side at least
> > we just generate the gfx hotplug event and let userspace deal with it.
> 
> IMO, a more proper way would be to have the direct communication
> between the graphics driver and the audio driver like i915 driver
> does.  Then the audio driver can get plug/unplug event at more
> accurate timing without races.
> 
> (Though, it will cause another mess wrt the weak module dependency,
>  but it's another story :)

Just don't do what snd-hda-intel did and instead implement the component
stuff properly :-)
-Daniel

> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Takashi
> 
> 
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > JimQu
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > 发件人: Lukas Wunner <lu...@wunner.de>
> > > 发送时间: 2018年7月9日 17:27
> > > 收件人: Qu, Jim
> > > 抄送: alsa-de...@alsa-project.org; dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org; 
> > > Deucher, Alexander; amd-...@lists.freedesktop.org
> > > 主题: Re: [PATCH] vgaswitchroo: set audio client id according to bound gpu 
> > > client id
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 08:52:33AM +0000, Qu, Jim wrote:
> > >> Now, I found the audio device will auto suspend even if the gpu is 
> > >> active,
> > >> and if I plug in a HDMI device it also do not resume back.
> > >>
> > >> 1. Did you encounter similar issue before?
> > >> 2. audio will auto suspend as default at beginning of boot, is it expect
> > >> behaviour?
> > >
> > > Yes, that's expected.  Once you start streaming audio to attached 
> > > displays,
> > > user space opens the codec device and this causes the HDA controller to
> > > runtime resume.  If the discrete GPU is suspended at that moment, it will
> > > be powered on and kept powered on as long as user space is streaming 
> > > audio.
> > >
> > > Do you need to runtime resume the HDA controller even if user space isn't
> > > streaming audio?  Why, and in which situation exactly?
> > >
> > > You're saying above that the HDA controller isn't runtime resumed on
> > > hotplug of a display.  Is that necessary to retrieve ELD or something?
> > > I'm not sure if there's code in the HDA driver to acquire a runtime PM
> > > ref on HPD, but maybe it's necessary.  Or maybe the code is there but
> > > somehow no HPD interrupt is received by the HDA driver?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Lukas
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